Anyone cycled at 20-21? What are your experiences?

[liamfresh]

your experiences cycling at 20-21 or around that age

where the cycles successful?

did you face any issues?

how much did you gain?

anyone use it to cut?

any experiences

[Times Roman]

and for those of you that are older, and have cycled at such a young age....

have you ever had erectile deficiency?

problems with libido?

depression?

moodiness?

problems with blood pressure?

[carbo]

Google Bostin Loyd

[derekkpapa1]

My cousin did at 18 ran ph and at 19 ran few cycles he ran maybe 1-2 more (so he sayes) now 26 not sure why yet but he can't get his wife pregnant plus he is almost bald but his father is also bald

[liamfresh]

Google Bostin Loyd

yeah that guy is crazy

[DawgHouse]

i did when I was 20... only used test propinate and was a light dose 75mg eod... gained 8lbs in 10 weeks.... currently libido is the same (always been a horny mother****er) i have very very slightly high blood pressure but I kinda remember that before using too and doctor tells me im fine. erectile function is fine, exactly the same.

one thing that is concerning is that I am unable to HOLD my weight at the level I was at... I went from 187 to 195 while juicing... now I keep rising up to the 193-195 mark naturally and then any time I get sick or miss the gym for a week I can drop 4-5lbs in the matter of days... I just took a week and half off a while back (finals for grad school) and I lost 7lbs... I have a theory that I may not have high enough natural test to hold that amount of muscle, It should be easy for me to weigh 195, I have been training 10 years and I am 5'10.5, I believe by now, especially after 4 years of big10 college football (being trained by professionals) I should be able to manage 200 lbs. I cant say definitively there is anything wrong with me really I could just be one of those guys who was supposed to be skinny. But I think there is a problem here when I can deadlift 600lbs but cannot hold weight to save my life. ill let you guys no more after I talk to my doctor.

I'm 23 not btw... only have done 2 cycles total. probably gonna cycle again this summer pending what I hear from the doc.

[liamfresh]

i did when I was 20... only used test propinate and was a light dose 75mg eod... gained 8lbs in 10 weeks.... currently libido is the same (always been a horny mother****er) i have very very slightly high blood pressure but I kinda remember that before using too and doctor tells me im fine. erectile function is fine, exactly the same.

one thing that is concerning is that I am unable to HOLD my weight at the level I was at... I went from 187 to 195 while juicing... now I keep rising up to the 193-195 mark naturally and then any time I get sick or miss the gym for a week I can drop 4-5lbs in the matter of days... I just took a week and half off a while back (finals for grad school) and I lost 7lbs... I have a theory that I may not have high enough natural test to hold that amount of muscle, It should be easy for me to weigh 195, I have been training 10 years and I am 5'10.5, I believe by now, especially after 4 years of big10 college football (being trained by professionals) I should be able to manage 200 lbs. I cant say definitively there is anything wrong with me really I could just be one of those guys who was supposed to be skinny. But I think there is a problem here when I can deadlift 600lbs but cannot hold weight to save my life. ill let you guys no more after I talk to my doctor.

I'm 23 not btw... only have done 2 cycles total. probably gonna cycle again this summer pending what I hear from the doc.

thanks for the reply, finally a cycle at this age that wasnt a horror story lol

i also loose a little weight when i dont train as i let my diet slip a little, could this be the case with you aswell?

get blood work and youll be able you see your naturally test, i think you would loose more weight then 4-5lbs if you had low test but see what the BW says

[Times Roman]

i did when I was 20... only used test propinate and was a light dose 75mg eod... gained 8lbs in 10 weeks.... currently libido is the same (always been a horny mother****er) i have very very slightly high blood pressure but I kinda remember that before using too and doctor tells me im fine. erectile function is fine, exactly the same.

one thing that is concerning is that I am unable to HOLD my weight at the level I was at... I went from 187 to 195 while juicing... now I keep rising up to the 193-195 mark naturally and then any time I get sick or miss the gym for a week I can drop 4-5lbs in the matter of days... I just took a week and half off a while back (finals for grad school) and I lost 7lbs... I have a theory that I may not have high enough natural test to hold that amount of muscle, It should be easy for me to weigh 195, I have been training 10 years and I am 5'10.5, I believe by now, especially after 4 years of big10 college football (being trained by professionals) I should be able to manage 200 lbs. I cant say definitively there is anything wrong with me really I could just be one of those guys who was supposed to be skinny. But I think there is a problem here when I can deadlift 600lbs but cannot hold weight to save my life. ill let you guys no more after I talk to my doctor.

I'm 23 not btw... only have done 2 cycles total. probably gonna cycle again this summer pending what I hear from the doc.

quick hijack for a personal story

I've "always" been thin. Means difficult for me to gain weight. I'm 6' btw. I was pretty strong in my younger days, worked at the saw mill pulling green lumber all day long when others would fail after almost an hour. And I was about 180lbs. 200lbs was always a goal for me back then. I'd eat like a horse, train like a mofo, and nothing. By the time I was mid to late twenties, I finally started approaching 200lbs. Once I hit 200lbs, started having kids, training faltered, and the weight became easier to gain, unfortunately not gym weight. Then as I got older, started training again, ran some PH, and bam! 240lbs and more explosively strong, but not nearly the endurance.

My point is this. Your body weight will fluctuate over the course of your life. Some you will be able to control. Other weight will come due to natural biological process' (aging). Instead of worrying about minor fluctuations, I think I would focus more on just eating correctly, training correctly, and resting correctly. The weight will come. Trust me.

[RangerDanger830]

I cycled the first time at 19. I was in Afghanistan and had no idea what I was doing. That is why I so often beat the young and the steroids post to death. I have been there and it sucks.

I did lose libido, couldn't get hard the very first time I had sex with the woman I was with. Depression terribly. My hormones went crazy afterwards so after all of the muscle I gained came, so did lethargy. With my hormones imbalanced I didn't feel like working out so I lost a lot if it. Terrible acne, injuries, you make it and I had it.

I did eventually widen up, obviously. But I wanted to share this because I have been there before and am speaking from experience. Waiting til 25 is one of the smartest long term decisions you could ever make.

[AsEpSiS]

Hardcore acne?...yes
Limp D?....YES
Emotional?....yes
Keep gains?....no
Wish I would've waited?...yes
Hospitalized? ....yes (thanks to trensomnia)

My first cycle many years ago at 22

[londonchavez]

Is it smart to cycle under 25? Not really. It's risky. Some react great, but some react terribly at that age. I did my first cycle when I was seventeen. 500 mg of sustanon per week and 30 mg dbol. I did this for twelve weeks and dbol for only 6 of it. I gained like 35 pounds. I kept literally all of it. I did gain some fat though. I came off with a proper pct and was completely fine. I didn't even notice that I came off. Lol my second cycle I was 18. I got a little ballsy and planned a HUGE cycle for somebody 18 years old with nearly no experience cycling.
Week 1-14 test cypionate 600 mg per week
Week 1-6 dbol 25 mg per day
Week 1-6 anadrol 50 mg per day
Week 4-12 tren acetate 300 mg per week.
I gained and cut. I gained about 30 pound including some fat loss. Lol I took a proper pct and was completely fine. Like never even coming off.
I've seen people get depressed and have libido issues etc.. But not everybody gets that.
Some react well and some don't. My advice to you is to wait. Too many horror stories to be risking everything over a couple quick pounds of muscle. Be smart.

[David LoPan]

Everyone I know that did a cycle young went on TRT at a young age. I personally don't think it is worth the risks. I have asked a few of the guys at a reunion if they had it to do again would they cycle at a young age and they all said no.

[michael30]

Is it smart to cycle under 25? Not really. It's risky. Some react great, but some react terribly at that age. I did my first cycle when I was seventeen. 500 mg of sustanon per week and 30 mg dbol. I did this for twelve weeks and dbol for only 6 of it. I gained like 35 pounds. I kept literally all of it. I did gain some fat though. I came off with a proper pct and was completely fine. I didn't even notice that I came off. Lol my second cycle I was 18. I got a little ballsy and planned a HUGE cycle for somebody 18 years old with nearly no experience cycling.
Week 1-14 test cypionate 600 mg per week
Week 1-6 dbol 25 mg per day
Week 1-6 anadrol 50 mg per day
Week 4-12 tren acetate 300 mg per week.
I gained and cut. I gained about 30 pound including some fat, loss. Lol I took a proper pct and was completely fine. Like never even coming off.
I've seen people get depressed and have libido issues etc.. But not everybody gets that.
Some react well and some don't. My advice to you is to wait. Too many horror stories to be risking everything over a couple quick pounds of muscle. Be smart.

Just want to make sure i understand your story correctly. Your saying you gained 65 lbs in 2 cycles? An didnt lose any of it?

[londonchavez]

First cycle I went from 185 to 220 in twelve weeks, but I gained some fat. After the cycle, I cut down to 200 lbs. my next cycle I went up to 235, but gained some fat. So it wasn't all muscle but I did gain a ton of muscle and my strength went through the roof. Lol

[dk94]

i cycled young and have at problems with natural libido and test levels. Dont do it

[liamfresh]

Is it smart to cycle under 25? Not really. It's risky. Some react great, but some react terribly at that age. I did my first cycle when I was seventeen. 500 mg of sustanon per week and 30 mg dbol. I did this for twelve weeks and dbol for only 6 of it. I gained like 35 pounds. I kept literally all of it. I did gain some fat though. I came off with a proper pct and was completely fine. I didn't even notice that I came off. Lol my second cycle I was 18. I got a little ballsy and planned a HUGE cycle for somebody 18 years old with nearly no experience cycling.
Week 1-14 test cypionate 600 mg per week
Week 1-6 dbol 25 mg per day
Week 1-6 anadrol 50 mg per day
Week 4-12 tren acetate 300 mg per week.
I gained and cut. I gained about 30 pound including some fat loss. Lol I took a proper pct and was completely fine. Like never even coming off.
I've seen people get depressed and have libido issues etc.. But not everybody gets that.
Some react well and some don't. My advice to you is to wait. Too many horror stories to be risking everything over a couple quick pounds of muscle. Be smart.

you say wait but do you regret the cycles?

[dk94]

it sounds like your searching until you hear the answer you want. You know its base, people experienced with young cycling tell you its not a good idea. I know what its like to be young and stubborn, but please do your future self a big favor in life and wait

[krask028]

I'm not that much older than you, OP... but I wouldn't run any cycles yet. I turn 24 this month and have already planned my cycle, pretty much a year in advance. I've just been waiting patiently to get started. It's a touchy subject, but if you just want to get bigger for the wrong reasons, don't start yet. Even at 24 I'm still a bit nervous, but I've done extensive research on beginner cycles and fell that I'm ready to give it a go. Understand all the risks involved and make the decision based upon if you can accept the chance of permanent damage to your HPTA. Obviously my advice doesn't weigh as much as the vets, but I figured I would pitch in.

[liamfresh]

it sounds like your searching until you hear the answer you want. You know its base, people experienced with young cycling tell you its not a good idea. I know what its like to be young and stubborn, but please do your future self a big favor in life and wait

i dont want any particular answer, im not gonna run off and do i cycle as soon as a hear someone had a good one lol. i just wanna know peoples experiences as im curious in the subject.

[DFRELAT]

Google Bostin Loyd

He's a retard, not a good exeample to follow!

[DFRELAT]

People in here judge alot by the age of the first cycle, I disagree with most of them, here's why. I say who cares at what age you begin, what matters is WHY are you starting, you want to ba a douche and look good on a beach with all the other wannabes? Or do you have a good reason? For me, one is this, you're an athlete, a bodybuilder, a powerlifter or whatever and you have great potential and starting anabolic steroids might give you the edge that you need to pull yourself apart from the pack and sign a big juicy contract just for example. Now everyone lives their lives the way they want, who am I to judge, but looking good on a beach looking like a douche is not that hard really and if you consider the needs, the potential risks to justify the end for it, well its your life do whatever the hell you want! To me it's shallow, ridiculous and stupid but that's just my opinion!

[thephoenix25]

People in here judge alot by the age of the first cycle, I disagree with most of them, here's why. I say who cares at what age you begin, what matters is WHY are you starting, you want to ba a douche and look good on a beach with all the other wannabes? Or do you have a good reason? For me, one is this, you're an athlete, a bodybuilder, a powerlifter or whatever and you have great potential and starting anabolic steroids might give you the edge that you need to pull yourself apart from the pack and sign a big juicy contract just for example. Now everyone lives their lives the way they want, who am I to judge, but looking good on a beach looking like a douche is not that hard really and if you consider the needs, the potential risks to justify the end for it, well its your life do whatever the hell you want! To me it's shallow, ridiculous and stupid but that's just my opinion!

Your reasoning sux!

You think that someone who has aspirations at a young age of being a bodybuilder or powerlifter, they should disregard their future health for a contract(read, money)!? Not the smartest move in my mind.... but then what would I know...... I just look good on the beach

[DFRELAT]

Your reasoning sux!

You think that someone who has aspirations at a young age of being a bodybuilder or powerlifter, they should disregard their future health for a contract(read, money)!? Not the smartest move in my mind.... but then what would I know...... I just look good on the beach

I didn't say just an aspiration, I said an athlete with great potential, who could set himself aprart,big difference. And secondly that was just ONE example of many we could say. And why say anything about disreaguarding their future? Taking steroids will automatically mess them up for the rest of their life is what you are saying here? BS! Millions of people on this planet take steroids and have absolutely no problem whatsoever. I gave the example of getting a contract, I think the end outweigh the risks here, in my opinion the chance of setting yourself up to earn a living is good enough. This is all hypothetical of course, just one of many examples I could've said because I personally know a baseball player and a few hockey players who did and in their shoes I would''ve done exactly the same! You think you look good on the beach, good for you! And just so you can sleep quietly tonight, they are all perfectly healthy! lol

[Times Roman]

People in here judge alot by the age of the first cycle, I disagree with most of them, here's why. I say who cares at what age you begin, what matters is WHY are you starting, you want to ba a douche and look good on a beach with all the other wannabes? Or do you have a good reason? For me, one is this, you're an athlete, a bodybuilder, a powerlifter or whatever and you have great potential and starting anabolic steroids might give you the edge that you need to pull yourself apart from the pack and sign a big juicy contract just for example. Now everyone lives their lives the way they want, who am I to judge, but looking good on a beach looking like a douche is not that hard really and if you consider the needs, the potential risks to justify the end for it, well its your life do whatever the hell you want! To me it's shallow, ridiculous and stupid but that's just my opinion!

on the one hand, I do understand your reasoning. But here is why I disagree with the advice. There are so many young wannabes here that think they are going to be the next young body building prodigy, that they will accept this line of reasoning as applying to them. Chances are, of the thousands online here on this BB right this very second, probably less than 1/2 of 1% will even reach a level where this might apply. Maybe. So I usually tailor my advice for the majority, and if I feel compelled to advise a youngster on proper AAS usage, I'll take it to PM.

Your reasoning sux!

You think that someone who has aspirations at a young age of being a bodybuilder or powerlifter, they should disregard their future health for a contract(read, money)!? Not the smartest move in my mind.... but then what would I know...... I just look good on the beach

IMHO, his line of reasoning is probably about right. No sense in throwing stones at him. There is a very very small percentage of the younger population whereby aas might be a viable option. But this small population would already have had to spend years in the gym, diet/nutrition already dialed in, they are already plateauing in the gym with their gains, and if they want to be competitive, and attract sponsors, then certain sacrifices should be considered, if they want to go all out in body building.

In other words, they have to be at a top level. How many of the youngsters here today can truly say they are at a top level?

[thephoenix25]

I didn't say just an aspiration, I said an athlete with great potential, who could set himself aprart,big difference. And secondly that was just ONE example of many we could say. And why say anything about disreaguarding their future? Taking steroids will automatically mess them up for the rest of their life is what you are saying here? BS! Millions of people on this planet take steroids and have absolutely no problem whatsoever. I gave the example of getting a contract, I think the end outweigh the risks here, in my opinion the chance of setting yourself up to earn a living is good enough. This is all hypothetical of course, just one of many examples I could've said because I personally know a baseball player and a few hockey players who did and in their shoes I would''ve done exactly the same! You think you look good on the beach, good for you! And just so you can sleep quietly tonight, they are all perfectly healthy! lol

No steroids won't "automatically" mess them up, but this thread is about a young person enquiring about others in his age group and their results. As I understand it, it is true that, the younger (less developed HPTA) you are the more likely you will run into problems when you cycle off. While I agree that in life, it is true that to get ahead some calculated risks are necessary, the situation you are creating is very far from the norm and needs to be highlighted as such. Thank you for letting me know your friends are all healthy and I am glad they are.... restful sleep is a rare commodity these days lol

[songdog]

All I will say is we have had or share of under age kids here who cycled and had problems.Now they regret it.So if you think there is a safe way or that they did something wrong.Guess again if your health don't mean much too you.By all means go head and cycle.The choice is yours.

[lovbyts]

thanks for the reply, finally a cycle at this age that wasnt a horror story lol

i also loose a little weight when i dont train as i let my diet slip a little, could this be the case with you aswell?

get blood work and youll be able you see your naturally test, i think you would loose more weight then 4-5lbs if you had low test but see what the BW says

I agree, God forbid you listen or read about all the failed cycles by the young and arogant or about all the guys with gyno, ED, low libido or multitude of other problems that can occur from cycling young. I'm sure you will be another exception to the rule just like so many who have come before you with reasons why they were different and it would not happen to them only to come back later asking for help or not.

Good luck with your decision.

[Rv8G30]

The problem is most young guys who say they are fine after cycling is they didn't give it enough time. Just because you cycled at 20 and can still get an erection doesn't mean you didn't **** yourself up. Wait til your 30 and you have all kinds of health problems. When I was 20 I wanted to cycle. I waited until 28. I'm 30 now and thank god I waited.

[lovbyts]

The problem is most young guys who say they are fine after cycling is they didn't give it enough time. Just because you cycled at 20 and can still get an erection doesn't mean you didn't **** yourself up. Wait til your 30 and you have all kinds of health problems. When I was 20 I wanted to cycle. I waited until 28. I'm 30 now and thank god I waited.

Precisely and 95% never put 2+2 together.

[DFRELAT]

Hypothetical reasoning and thought experiments aren't getting through to many in here. You guys really wanna be stubborn and argue with me that if you were a football player for example and you're damn close to a pro contract you wouldn't take anything? lol Come on, stop the BS Yes of course it's a very small minority of the population I'm talking about, any idiot that has half a brain will come to that conclusion, like I said it's just one example I chose. Now by giving that example does it follow that any teen or young men has a green light to start juicing, NO. I said it has to be for good reasons, there is not many other good reasons at that young age to start juicing, other then shallow ones like being a douche on a beach! That being said, who are we to judge what is right or wrong for other people's lives? It might be the single most important thing for some to be a great looking douche, I find it ridiculous and stupid but it's their lives, they make decisions on their own free will. Who made you the moral police, enforcer of morality with power to decide people's lives?

[Getlean007]

It's your life, do what you want

[pavlenko]

I cycled at that age but wish i didnt, you can gain so much more by waiting and training natty for awhile....now i enjoy training natural I can still progress natty by getting stronger.

[Athlete127]

Cycled first time at 20... Ignorantly did dbol and Winstol only. Messed my body all up. Got it back to normal finally. Cycled again late 20 just Test.

Been cycling ever since and I'm now 24 and of course using way more than I have in past. I've always correct post cycle. Hcg and ai throughout all cycles ever since my first oral only cycle.

Would I recommend this route. Heck no. It is what it is. All my blood work is good but never know what could come up when I'm older. I did cycles way too close together. Sometimes longer than I should have. Heck, I even did a cycle once, two week pct and ran another. So basically 16 weeks straight of test/tren/mast. And I've done that TWICE. Stupid stuff man. I was on test for about 10 months straight at one time because I thought I'd lose my gains and thank the good Lord my levels came back up after all that. Note (I had to pct 6 straight weeks after that) I've probably ran 8 cycles in 4 years span. Ignorant. But I've learned.

Moral of my story is not all end badly, but it easily could have been way worse. AND it can always get worse.

Do not take my route. Not everyone gets as lucky as I did. And once again, who's to say I'll end up lucky.

[lovbyts]

It's your life, do what you want

Your going to go far here.... NOT