Arginine, Agmatine, Argine AKG, Arginine Ethyl Ester... which one?

[F4iGuy]

Is one of these better than the rest to use pre workout?

[Venom]

Agmatine all day!

[F4iGuy]

Agmatine all day!

How does one dose agmatine with citrulline malate? Also, would citrulline malate at 1:1 or 2:1 be the better choice?

[Venom]

How does one dose agmatine with citrulline malate? Also, would citrulline malate at 1:1 or 2:1 be the better choice?

Both Agmatine and CM can be stacked together. There is tons of literature surrounding Agmatine and it's different interactions. Here's a general idea of when you can dose it and it's benefits.

Upon rising/preworkout = mood benefits
Pre-bed = sleep benefits
Preworkout = pump benefits
Pre-meal = GDA benefits
Pre-cardio = analgesic benefits

People typical dose Agmatine 1-2g either spread out throughout the day or if you're utilizing it for pump purposes take it all pre workout.

CM can be dosed 6-9g pre workout, although CM is more beneficial as an endurance booster and not a pump product. I would use L-Citrulline for pump purposes.

Another product to check out for intense pumps is GMS (Glycerol MonoStearate). The pumps from this is ridiculous.

[Venom]

To add I would get the 2:1 CM

[F4iGuy]

Sounds good. I've never tried anything for 'pumps' before last week. After taking pre workout sample (ON platinum pre) that contained citrulline and hitting up shoulders/tris I was blown away. I'm just not a fan of the stims.

I'm looking to make my own mix with 2 or 3 ingredients and used it only a few times a week before lifting for that 'pump' feeling. I looked into a product called hemavol, gets good reviews but I'm not a fan of the kitchen sink pre workout supps.

So far Citrulline and agmatine look good. I'm also reading up on nitrates. I'll check out GMS too. Thanks!