Turinabol/Anavar cycle question

[Dancouver]

Hey folks, I've been doing a ton of reading, soooo much information

I had originally thought about doing a dbol/anavar cycle and couldn't really find too much info on that, lot's individually but none together. From what I'm hearing about dbol it kinda sounds like a pain in the ass and you have to take as many things to prevent stuff from happening just to get 1 positive thing to happen and that's gains. As I said before in another thread I naturally pack a fair amount of muscle mass, I don't even do weighted exercises for my legs anymore because they get too big and I have a hard time finding pants that fit.

So I suppose what I'm after is something that will help put on a bit of lean muscle mass while shedding fat. After a work injury I went from 240lbs to 308lbs, through strict diet I got down to 234lbs in 2 months and now back up to 260lbs thanks to a flare up of the injury and time off my feet. I was looking at doing something like Turinabol and Anavar and wondering what the consensus of some of the experienced folks here might be? Any concerns, things I need to take along side these to lessen side effects. I've tried Anavar before and had 0 side effects and from what I've read that is probably the mildest one in that regard.

Any advice, pointers, suggestions or alternatives would be greatly appreciated.

If it helps, I'm a 37 year old Male, 6'2 and currently 260lbs, normally that weight would be obese but like I said I am a naturally large guy so I'm really only 20 to 30 pounds overweight at most if that has any effect on anything.

Thanks a ton.

[tice1212]

If u did all this research then u must know u have to run test with both of those compounds, also then u know that running two orals is really bad idea... It sounds to me like u really haven't done any research IMO...

[Dancouver]

Yeah I've read from another forum that two orals is kinda bad for the liver and all, it was an old forum though and wondered if anything had changed or if you did the Anavar after the Turnibol if that would be better. Lot's of the info seems to be conflicting which is why I reached out here. One of the things I read said that test was encouraged for max efficiency and gain but not absolutely necessary depending on my goals. You're right though, I could probably do more reading on the subject I'm just a little pressed for time and trying to cut through some of the misinformation out there and learning from those who are experienced.

Thanks for the response.

[tice1212]

This is the everything u need to know about running ur first cycle... I just finished my first cycle, i followed this exact. My stats:
Before: 5'9, 192lbs, 14.9%
After 5'9, 201lbs, 13.1%

Hope this helps
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[qscgugcsq]

Two oral is hard for the liver is pure bullshit...

20mg of two oral is not worst than 40mg of 1...

Plus anavar(if its really anavar) is really mild on the liver.
By mild I mean almost no toxicity at all...

However, it is clearly optimal in every way to use test with it.
100mg a week if you want but test is extremely important.

I would not.recommend under 400mg/week if your goal is not purely to remplace natural production.

Whatever, liver toxicity is greatly exagerated, and IMO should not be a concern in moderation.
If yiu go at the upper end dose of an oral for more than 4-6 weeks then you might start worry.
Otherwise, its useless worry.

But NAC is a very efficient liver support and is cheap as ****.
If you are worried, use it.

[Dancouver]

Thanks both, much appreciated. May I ask how you guy's were with injecting when you first started doing it?

[qscgugcsq]

I practiced with B12, to get use to enter a needle in.
Oil is way different but except for the shaking giving more pip, its not too bad

[PistolPete33]

If you're going to be doing AAS you need to stick yourself with NEEDLES..... NO EXCEPTIONS.... If you can't pin then you need not look any further.

[tice1212]

Thanks both, much appreciated. May I ask how you guy's were with injecting when you first started doing it?

Honestly bro it hurt but it was tolerable.. Out of my whole test prop cycle i miss two leg days.. I think that's pretty good for every other day injections... Think gains!

[Chicagotarsier]

Anavar as a steroid is not for mass building...its primary reason to take is for fat burning abilities. Anavar alone cycle does not require PCT. It is one of the steroids that does not need testosterone along with it and does not shut down your HPTA. I also does not aromatize.

If it was me and Dbol was my other item I would drop Dbol, do 100 mg a day of anavar (with T3 if I could get my hands on it) and do a strict diet because one thing is for sure....

If you gain weight because of any reason it means your diet and TDEE is not existent. Before you go past an anavar or androil type steroid you better get your diet tight. I understand injury but gaining weight at that rate is a diet issue. If steroid results were a lock and the combination were three items they would be....

DIET (nutrition and TDEE)
Safety (AI SERM, PCT, Knowledge of product)
Effort (Gym, Cardio, Rest, No Cheating on cycle)

[Buster Brown]

Anavar as a steroid is not for mass building...its primary reason to take is for fat burning abilities. Anavar alone cycle does not require PCT. It is one of the steroids that does not need testosterone along with it and does not shut down your HPTA. I also does not aromatize.

If it was me and Dbol was my other item I would drop Dbol, do 100 mg a day of anavar (with T3 if I could get my hands on it) and do a strict diet because one thing is for sure....

If you gain weight because of any reason it means your diet and TDEE is not existent. Before you go past an anavar or androil type steroid you better get your diet tight. I understand injury but gaining weight at that rate is a diet issue. If steroid results were a lock and the combination were three items they would be....

DIET (nutrition and TDEE)
Safety (AI SERM, PCT, Knowledge of product)
Effort (Gym, Cardio, Rest, No Cheating on cycle)

Anavar will shut you down and you do need a pct. Running var alone is foolish and all cycles should accompany Tes.

[Times Roman]

If you're going to be doing AAS you need to stick yourself with NEEDLES..... NO EXCEPTIONS.... If you can't pin then you need not look any further.

well, there are some exceptions, BUT, injections is by far the best way to administer most AAS

[austinite]

20mg of two oral is not worst than 40mg of 1...

That doesnt make any sense at all...

Plus anavar(if its really anavar) is really mild on the liver.
By mild I mean almost no toxicity at all...

Completely false. COMPLETELY.

Whatever, liver toxicity is greatly exagerated, and IMO should not be a concern in moderation.
If yiu go at the upper end dose of an oral for more than 4-6 weeks then you might start worry.
Otherwise, its useless worry.

In some specific cases it may be exaggerated. This is wild. What are you on about? You make it sound like all orals are made equal and all liver tolerances are the same. Very silly assumption.


You're still 19 years old and you don't have the experience to make such assumptions.

[michael30]

Wow alot wrong info in this thread. Aust covered it. Dancouver if your worried about injections. A way to ease into it could be sub q injections( i use them for my hrt 29 gauge 1/2 needle)