Time to cut? Vets advice

[Roger11]

Current stats are
5,11
110-112kg
14ish percent mayb higher bodyfat.

ive had enough of bulking i think, the amount of food is killing me, waking up during the night with gut aches from so much food and feeling like i wanna throw up.

I tihnk its time to get nice and lean, my face is bloated and holding lots of fat, my current stack atm is test/deca/eq 250, 1000, 750.

Im on TRT.

My cutting stack im looking at running is

500mg of test, maybe lower.

and masteron. Never used mast before but im using it to help preserve muscle and by the time im lean it should be working nicely. Doesnt take me to long to drop fat.

Aswell as 75-100mcg T3.


How do you guys know when its time to diet down?

[David LoPan]

Everyone has a goal that will tell them when to diet down. I dont think that masteron will help much unless you are very lean to begin with. What are your goals?

[Roger11]

Everyone has a goal that will tell them when to diet down. I dont think that masteron will help much unless you are very lean to begin with. What are your goals?

Goals are to get as lean and shredded as possible i guess.
While holding onto as much mass as i can.


Just had enough of bulking. Going from 78-90kg Then going from 90-102 was fine, then going from 102- 107kg was tough, then its a damn nightmare going over 110kg lol. I hate life and its miserable, infact theres days i just wont eat at all because i hate it and feel miserable. Anyone else get this?


Was looking at using masteron because ive never used it before, i know it wont shine unless im very lean, but im using it to preserve muscle. Just trying to keep this an easy side free cycle, would use tren but but its not a nice anabolic lol.

Masteron seems from what ive read to be side free for most, and a nice anabolic.

I dont like using massive amounts of gear when i CUT because its a waste, your not eating in a surplus and not building muscle, your only preserving muscle so heaps of gear wont make any difference.

[jay94]

IMO too much gear while cutting is not needed. Burning lots of calories in the gym + a clenbuterol only cycle + a spot on diet and you will make massive fat loss gains. That's just my opinion at least. But based on my knowledge there aren't really any steroids that are proven by studies to make you lose fat effectively. Clen isn't a roid but it increases the temperature of your body so that's guaranteed to make you lose more fat.

[David LoPan]

Well I am a lover of Tren unlike most people on this site. Some people get sides but they ones I get dont really bother me. I think your ready to start your cut. If you hate eating and know how to eat, then cut your Deca and EQ and cruse on your TRT depending on your length of your cycle. Higher levels of test will raise your H&H so you might think about donating blood. High H&H will make your cardio harder. Maybe someone that know more than I do will jump in and help.

Sounds like you did answer your own question and it is time to stop bulking.

[qscgugcsq]

Just my opiniom, but 75-100mcg T3 may increase you appetite, be carefull when dieting on that much T3.

I however believe that mast will greatly help cutting, you may not fully benefit from it due to your BF but you will see increased fat loss for sure.

Damn you could cut on 1 000mg deca a week if you wanted too.
With anadrol with it and you got the best wet cutter of all time XD

[Cuz]

U need to be under 12% to reap full benefits of mast. ..and you actually use a lot more compounds drugs so on to diet down..

I've never dieted down...to scareed to. I stay lean year round bit I do get an itch to just get sliced look every now and then...maybe one day eh?

If I did...I'd use tren AND mast..along clen/t3..and some good hgh

[tdoe11]

I also have been bulking for some time. I was at the point of hating eating. It was such a chore. I decided to cut. I went from 230 to 210 and my abs are totally visible. I feel 10,000 times better and everyday someone tells me how much bigger I am. When the fat and water goes your definition and vascularity comes in. So hands down cut IMO. It's the best thing I ever did. Also someday when you bulk again your gains will be super visible. Good luck

[marcus300]

No need for masteron at your bf and the test will preserve tissue. Diet slowly and adjust accordingly

[Roger11]

I feel like an idiot TBH, iv been on deca/eq for 5 weeks now. I should have just chosen short esters for 6-8 week bulk. Not something that needs to be run 12-16 FML. Feels like its all wasted, even tho the drug is active as soon as you inject it, you dont see anything visible till week 4-6 anyway. Anyone ever done this before? I might hold out for a few more weeks.

Guys, i wasnt using the masteron to shine my physique i was using it to preserve muscle, and by the time i was lean enough it may start shining. So 2 birds with 1 stone sorta thing haha.

Marcus how much test do you reckon? I dont want to use to many anabolics or big doses because its really a waste, they wont build muscle for me in a defict of calories, so no point using lots or big amounts.

[marcus300]

I feel like an idiot TBH, iv been on deca/eq for 5 weeks now. I should have just chosen short esters for 6-8 week bulk. Not something that needs to be run 12-16 FML. Feels like its all wasted, even tho the drug is active as soon as you inject it, you dont see anything visible till week 4-6 anyway. Anyone ever done this before? I might hold out for a few more weeks.

Guys, i wasnt using the masteron to shine my physique i was using it to preserve muscle, and by the time i was lean enough it may start shining. So 2 birds with 1 stone sorta thing haha.

Marcus how much test do you reckon? I dont want to use to many anabolics or big doses because its really a waste, they wont build muscle for me in a defict of calories, so no point using lots or big amounts.

500mgs or under will be fine,
you don't need the masteron your bf is to high and the test will preserve tissue,
eq is useless and a complete waste of time
deca you need to run for 12 weeks,
cutting is more or less down to your diet and cardio, don't diet fast do it slowly and adjust when needed

[Roger11]

500mgs or under will be fine,
you don't need the masteron your bf is to high and the test will preserve tissue,
eq is useless and a complete waste of time
deca you need to run for 12 weeks,
cutting is more or less down to your diet and cardio, don't diet fast do it slowly and adjust when needed

My current cycle atm that ive been on for 5 weeks is deca/eq mate and low dose test. Ive been on for 5 weeks, so it was a waste of time really unless i continue it, but i hate eating now lol. Have you ever felt like that mate? After eating and bulking for so long you dont want to do it anymore. Hate eating and in general feel garbage. I still want big size so i may just have to push through.

[Roger11]

Hey marcus and everyone else, im curious even tho mast doesnt work well at high BF, how is it for presrving lean mass.

Notice how i said preserving.

[marcus300]

My current cycle atm that ive been on for 5 weeks is deca/eq mate and low dose test. Ive been on for 5 weeks, so it was a waste of time really unless i continue it, but i hate eating now lol. Have you ever felt like that mate? After eating and bulking for so long you dont want to do it anymore. Hate eating and in general feel garbage. I still want big size so i may just have to push through.

Yes I know its your current cycle that's what I am advising you on aswell as your future cut.
Yes 5 weeks of deca eq is a waste of time,
No I never feel like that I eat to build tissue and maintain my gains its someth9ing I have to do if I want to be big,

[marcus300]

Hey marcus and everyone else, im curious even tho mast doesnt work well at high BF, how is it for presrving lean mass.

Notice how i said preserving.

How many times do you want to hear it, your going to be using test so you have no need for masteron to preserve tissue, there isn't anything better than test. Masteron wont do anything for you at your bf and it wont beat test at preserving tissue.

[Roger11]

Ok thanks mate.