Blast and Cruise?? Plus Low T & trying to get girlfriend Pregnant??? Please help??

[NACH3]

So I have everything in order for when I return to Cali for Fertility and TRT Plans... Is this the route I should be taking since Having Low T/low Motility etc??

I have been thinkin of TRT FOR SOME TIME NOW! Knowing it's a lifestyle not just a change!!

As long as I continue to run hCG @ 500 twice a wk/or bumping it up to 3x wkly at 425iu for a total of 1275iu wkly to increase Sperm count/frequency/ motility etc... As well as my AI - Aromasin 12.5mg ed/or up to 25mg ed but I think my E levels started getting too low at 25mg ed so I've cut back like. 5 days ago to 12.5mg ed... Waiting on BW, too! Also, takin liq. C.

I also wanted to finish my 12 wk cycle then lower my test intake to a TRT DOSE - 200mg to 300mg wkly then want to introduce "Cut Stack" - which includes Prop/Tren Ace/Mast... 50/50/50 ratio - starting at 400mg wkly/& if BW IS OK then up to. 600mg wkly???

All opinions/Advice will be Greatly Appreciated! Thank you guys and gals!!!

[Baxter35]

200-300 weekly is too high for trt dose. Also your post jumps around a bit so I don't fully understand what exactly your questions are. Is this your first cycle? If so I know its widely recommended to do test only to start out so you may want to rethink the number of compounds you use.

[ringsman]

Hey nach3 I read somewhere that you shouldn't exceed 1000iu of hcg in a week not sure why. I haven't looked into it as I'm currently not on it. Also 200 to 300mg is a strong dose for trt. But each to his own. I have low t and have a son. Many body builders also conceive children on test so just try it without doing a lot of hcg. A typical dose of hcg would be 500iu a week. Anybody please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just trying to help as much as I can.

[hawk14dl]

So. . You want to voluntarily get on trt? is that what I'm reading?

If so, not smart man. Do your pct, wait it out, then run another cycle.

Also, typical hcg dosing is 700/wk. I run 100 daily

[ringsman]

100 daily? Do you pin
intramuscular or in the belly. That's too many injections a week for me man. Also for the op I think low t does not effect sperm count or if it does not enough to prevent you to have a kid.

[hawk14dl]

Yes 100iu daily. There are a lot of us that do it here.

I do everything sub q. not just in the belly though, I can do practically anywhere

[ringsman]

I just started trt this week and it took me forever to inject. I did it wrong too because I had a knot of oil that stayed for about three days. I can't fathom how you can do it anywhere. I guess it gets easier with time. I saw a guy inject into his calf. I was cringing while watching that.

[hawk14dl]

Like I said, I'm doing sub q. As long as I can pinch some fat, I can inject.

[kelkel]

Nach I'm confused as well. Break it down into questions for us please.

[Times Roman]

geez...

....only 30 and wants to go on TRT?

that's a helluva can of worms to be opening at such a young age.

well, do what you think is best.

but TRT is a shit load of work. and the results aren't always what you expect!
---Roman

[NACH3]

Nach I'm confused as well. Break it down into questions for us please.

No this is not my first cycle guys as I've been using AAS for about 3-4 yrs... And did start w/test only cycles for the first 2-3... Then added compounds like Deca, a couple times w/test always being my base(usually Prop or Sust)! Added primobolan, anavar, & Mast... So far! But thanks for the caution...

1. I am asking this b/c I have Low T and am having trouble getting my girlfriend pregnant as Her work-up(blood, eggs, ovulation , etc is right in the normal), but mine on the other hand shows Low T, motility is under normal levels, and my dpermatafire count isn't near the normal 20mil count!!

2. Is this the right thing to be considering??

3. We want a child more this never, and I realize I am young for TRT OR HRT, but would appreciate your feed back? I know it's becomes a lifestyle/not just a change in your life - if ya get my drift??

4. Is there anything else I can do besides TRT/HRT to get my sperm back up?? I've heard of the gels but their now being recalled from what I've heard.

Was just looking for some advice as to what's best for myself and my gitlfriend(7 yrs BTW)

Thank you and if anything else is needed please lemme know!! Thanks

[ppwc1985]

You need to ask your dr, it's not impossible to get pregnant while on trt but I would think it's easier when not on trt. Never heard of anyone getting put on trt to help get pregnant. See a fertility dr.

[NACH3]

So. . You want to voluntarily get on trt? is that what I'm reading?

If so, not smart man. Do your pct, wait it out, then run another cycle.

Also, typical hcg dosing is 700/wk. I run 100 daily

Thanks hawk14di,
I haven't exceeded the 1000iu mark in a week, doing 500iu twice a wk... But wasn't sure if that would help w/sperm frequency/count/motility etc... I was thinkin about upping the hCG fit more help with the last sentence... Haven't had the guts as I read austinites protocol for hCG never to exceed the 1000iu mark!!!

Thanks and definitely will follow my reg PCT Protocol!!! Thanks for the sound advice!

We do have a fertility Dr ready for when I get back... Greatly appreciate your advice!!!

[NACH3]

You need to ask your dr, it's not impossible to get pregnant while on trt but I would think it's easier when not on trt. Never heard of anyone getting put on trt to help get pregnant. See a fertility dr.

Ppwc1985,

Thanks for all your help... It seems like some Dr's believe in it while some dont, in my experience so far! But will follow all your advice as you and everyone here was taken back by it... Glad I posted this!

I really appreciate all your guys input as well.... Thanks!!!

[NACH3]

100 daily? Do you pin
intramuscular or in the belly. That's too many injections a week for me man. Also for the op I think low t does not effect sperm count or if it does not enough to prevent you to have a kid.

I pin IM ed since on prop(.75mg ed/525mg wkly - W/Primobolan @ 1.0mg ed - 700mg wkly/then introduced Anavar in wk. 6 if 12 wk cycle(stopping the var at wk 12)

So this may give you a look at how pinnin ed doesn't really effect me... But in the calf I've never done(I rotate from glutes/to Quads/ to delts/ then back again, depending on what my training is that day!

Thanks for all your feedback Gents/& if any gals thank u as well, really opened my eyes here ... Thanks for that!

[2Sox]

Many here dose hCG ED and do it SQ. Easy as taking your morning vitamins and supplements. Doses range but 750-1000iu weekly are not uncommon. From my knowledge, many on this forum have gotten pregnant on hCG while on TRT. When you see your fertility doctor he will likely speak to you about hMG or FSH to get the Sertoli cells of your testes to charge up. hMG can be obtained overseas without a script also but it's rather expensive compared to hCG.

I don't know what your T dose is now but for a typical TRT regimen IMO even 12.5 mg of Aromasin every day is really crazy. If you keep this up, I think you'll be in world of hurt in no time. For a comparison, my T dose is about 120mg/week and I dose Aromasin at 12.5mg/week-8days. STILL trying to pin the timing and dose down but this seems to be working at the moment.

Also, as Times Roman says above, considering TRT at 30 years of age is inadvisable, IMO - unless your machinery doesn't work anymore which leaves you little choice in the matter.

[NACH3]

Many here dose hCG ED and do it SQ. Easy as taking your morning vitamins and supplements. Doses range but 750-1000iu weekly are not uncommon. From my knowledge, many on this forum have gotten pregnant on hCG while on TRT. When you see your fertility doctor he will likely speak to you about hMG or FSH to get the Sertoli cells of your testes to charge up. hMG can be obtained overseas without a script also but it's rather expensive compared to hCG.

I don't know what your T dose is now but for a typical TRT regimen even 12.5 mg of Aromasin every day is really crazy. If you keep this up, you'll be in world of hurt in no time. For a comparison, my T dose is about 120mg/week and I dose Aromasin at 12.5mg/week-8days. STILL trying to pin the timing and dose down but this seems to be working at the moment. Plus the sticky "Aromasin the underdosed AI!"

Also, as Times Roman says above, considering TRT at 30 years of age is inadvisable - unless your machinery doesn't work anymore which leaves you little choice in the matter.

Gotcha!! I do SQ for my hCG doses... 500iu twice a week as if right now... Was thinking of staying under the 1000iu mark for the wk but administering more often like many do!

Also I've cut back on my Aromasin to 12.5mg for about a wk now and feel better(regarding more energy, less lethargic, etc... And thinkin of maybe bringing it down to 6.25mg if body allows me to(I always listen to my body)... But to clear up why I was taking 25mg ed was b/c I was told by several knowledgable sources as that is where I should be w/what I'm taking!

Quickly test prop .75mg ed/525mg wkly - Primo 1cc ed/700mg wkly - Anavar 60mg from wk. 6 to wk 9/80mg from wk 9 to wk 12 then stop... PCT OR CRUISE??? Cruising would be roughly 150mg-200mg of test wkly(prop or E) most likely prop since that's whT I'd be running again(IMO I would rather keep my short esters together)into my next cycle which would include Prop/Tren Ace/Mast each w/50/50/50 ratio and would run 400mg wkly.... Sound ok ??? Your opinions and advice are very appreciated 2sox !!!

Just have Low T(& I know I can still get her pregnant w/Low T(but was under the impression that TRT would help this situation, do again thanks for everyone/U included clearing this up 4 me)!!!
My stuff works fine... Lol so as you stated TRT IS OFF LIMITS at this time ... And I really appreciate your advice and help... Thanks again my man!

[EZ E]

In general steroids/TRT is going to be counterproductive with getting pregnant. That being said, you can do it using HCG or HMG but it would be best to do a PCT and work with the fertility doc to check your sperm once that is done. You have too much going on right now to get an accurate picture of what your count is normally.

[NACH3]

In general steroids/TRT is going to be counterproductive with getting pregnant. That being said, you can do it using HCG or HMG but it would be best to do a PCT and work with the fertility doc to check your sperm once that is done. You have too much going on right now to get an accurate picture of what your count is normally.

I agree as I've been researching... Don't know why I thought TRT was contrary to what was being said(regarding helping gettin her pregnant) but I did know hCG is a productive way under a fertility Doc of course!
Thanks for the info & advice my man, I appreciate it!

[hawk14dl]

I've heard the addition of clomid could help. Please wait for verification on that though

[Chicagotarsier]

Fertility Drs (Urologist) usually know 500% more than an Endo about TrT in my experience so it might be a win win.

TRT makes LH go low and LH is the signal for test/sperm production. Artificial LH (HcG) is usually a first step to getting the jewels working and usually is part of a TrT treatment especially if you are not hypogonadal.

it is a path and will take many Dr visits with maybe yes maybe no results. Me and my Misses are going to collect sperm directly from my testicales (medicine program to do this) and then fertilize in vitro . There are always options if you have the cash.

I agree as I've been researching... Don't know why I thought TRT was contrary to what was being said(regarding helping gettin her pregnant) but I did know hCG is a productive way under a fertility Doc of course!
Thanks for the info & advice my man, I appreciate it!