Patiently building first cycle, Test only. First question: +10week cycle lengths?

[cttoasn]

New Question at bottom, Cant edit thread title to reflect


I have been browsing through this site for a couple months now, and learn something new each time I spend more than 5 minutes here. So thanks to everyone here for the knowledge.

My plan is to follow the guidelines from the "Most common beginner cycles" sticky. as shown below.

Wk 1-10 Testosterone Cypionate = 200mg twice/wk e3.5d
Wk 1-10 Arimidex .25mg EOD – monitor and adjust accordingly.
Wk 1- 12.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk - day before test injection.

PCT
Begins wk 13 to wk 17

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20



I currently have 3, 10ml bottles of U.S. produced, pharmacy TEST CYP. The bottles are 200mg / 1ml.

I am carefully browsing around, reading reviews and trying to decide where to purchase HCG, Arimidex and the PCT of Clomid and Nolva. As frustrating as it is, I do not want to start until I have everything on hand, ready to go.

I am 30yrs old
175ish lbs and 5'9"

will be doing a dexa scan shortly to figure out BF.

I am purely looking for performance gains at Olympic weightlifting. At 30yrs old, my weight class is hard to compete in against the 21yr olds. I would like to be able to train a slightly higher volume, train harder and with better recovery. I will eat right, train hard and the scale can say whatever it wants too.



My first question is in regards to cycle length and dosing.

My plan was 400mg / week. 200mg every 3.5 days. That would use exactly 2 of my TEST bottles for a 10 week cycle.

Is there anything wrong with adding length to the cycle since I have another bottle, either continuing 400mg / week, or maybe doing a taper for a couple more weeks?

Thanks!

[Back In Black]

12 weeks is probably a better length of cycle. No need to taper at all.

You can get get your nolva and clomid from the Ar-r banner at the top of the page but you will need to source your own HCG. Definitely have everything to hand before you start.

[cttoasn]

12 weeks is probably a better length of cycle. No need to taper at all.

You can get get your nolva and clomid from the Ar-r banner at the top of the page but you will need to source your own HCG. Definitely have everything to hand before you start.

Thanks for the reply.

I was pretty sold on AR-R until I recently read through a bunch of negative reviews for some of their products. Still researching, I don't imagine they would have a strong positive rep here without good reason. For every negative "underdosed" or "product was bunk" review, there are at least ten more positive comments on their AI and PCT.

[ScotchGuard02]

I have run Test Cyp cycles for up to 14 weeks. Cyp is a longer ester than Enth so I run it a couple of weeks longer. However, if after 12 weeks I'm not seeing any more gains, I stop my cycle at 12 weeks.

[cttoasn]

I have run Test Cyp cycles for up to 14 weeks. Cyp is a longer ester than Enth so I run it a couple of weeks longer. However, if after 12 weeks I'm not seeing any more gains, I stop my cycle at 12 weeks.

Thanks!

[cttoasn]

For a first cycle, is there a huge difference between 400 or 500mg / week?

And has anyone gone beyond 12 weeks? Is it not recommended?

I chose 400mg for two reasons, 1. To keep everything mild for a 1st cycle and 2. Because my bottles are 200mg/1ml, so it keeps it super easy.

[Juelzz]

12 weeks is the standard but you can run longer than 12 weeks no problem imo.

[derekkpapa1]

400mg would be fine.
12 is standard especially for first cycle-you can judge how your body reacts.
Remember diet is key spend equal if not more time a eating to gain and maintain.
Remember you are young still grow into your cycles don't add unnecessary compounds or time till you are ready.
Good luck

[cttoasn]

400mg would be fine.
12 is standard especially for first cycle-you can judge how your body reacts.
Remember diet is key spend equal if not more time a eating to gain and maintain.
Remember you are young still grow into your cycles don't add unnecessary compounds or time till you are ready.
Good luck

Thanks...I cant predict the future, But I currently do not have a desire to add any compounds other than Test. I figure if and when I run a 2nd Cycle, I will up it to 500mg and continue to keep things simple.

[derekkpapa1]

Good to hear you are respecting this.
Good luck kicking the kids azzes!

[DrewZ]

If you use Test Cyp, PCT starts 18 days after your last pin.

Your AI should be run up until you start your PCT.

[cttoasn]

Good to hear you are respecting this.
Good luck kicking the kids azzes!

Thanks man!

If you use Test Cyp, PCT starts 18 days after your last pin.

Your AI should be run up until you start your PCT.

Appreciate it!

[cttoasn]

Second Question

I have seen adex, clomi and nolva in pill form and also oral liquid forms.

Are there benefits or disadvantages to either?

I think that I am leaning towards Kalpa brand for the adex, clomi and nolva as Kalpa has almost zero negative reviews from all my digging. Their stuff is completely pill form, is this a problem?

Also, the HcG was from the same site with top notch source reviews, but the brand is GenShi, which I have not done enough digging into their rep yet.

[cttoasn]

bump

[cttoasn]

First pin today!!

Everything went well. Watched about 20 YouTube videos first ha ha. Went into the right thigh with a 1" needle. No blood, went in smooth and painless. Few hours later and I can feel a small knot consistent with any other IM injection I've received for immunizations and such.

My test cyp is US made, pharm from a TRT patient so I am hoping the pip should be minimal.


Cycle info is the same as above, still planning for the 12 weeks.

[derekkpapa1]

I did same thing my first time.
you probably will get some pip from virgin muscle but as your technique gets better and your muscle get use to it-it will be no big deal.
You should start a cycle log in members cycle section

[cttoasn]

I did same thing my first time.
you probably will get some pip from virgin muscle but as your technique gets better and your muscle get use to it-it will be no big deal.
You should start a cycle log in members cycle section

Thanks man.

So far, no pip and it's the next day. Pretty happy about that.

I don't know if it's nerves and placebo, but all day yesterday my heart felt pretty racy like I had extra adrenaline and I was slightly cotton mouthed. Plus hungry as hell.

My balls are also slightly achy. Ha ha.

[Sergio727]

I went somewhere between 13-15 weeks but i switchedto sustanon300 sfter week 10