First Steroid cycle All in or nothing

[samude]

Cheers to you all I m about to start my first cycle i`ve been training for to years started off at 140 lbs 12% bf and know i`m 180 at 6% bf and i`m 5`10
Here is the cycle i was told to do by my trainer a ex Mr Univers

Week 1-12; Test E (500mg monday and thursday)
Week 1-10; Deca (400 mg monday and thursday)
Week 1-10; winny ( half a cc tuesday friday)
Week 1-12; Arimidex .50mg avery 3 days
Pct will start 21 days after last pin
4 weeks Clomid
4 weeks Novaldex 50/50/25/25

Any contructive comment be appriciated

[Times Roman]

Cheers to you all I m about to start my first cycle i`ve been training for to years started off at 140 lbs 12% bf and know i`m 180 at 6% bf and i`m 5`10 - (see comment below)Here is the cycle i was told to do by my trainer a ex Mr Univers - this cycle may work for him, but not for you. He is advanced, you are a newb. even two years only in the gym means probably not enough time?

Week 1-12; Test E (500mg monday and thursday) - too much. stick to 500mg/week for a first cycleWeek 1-10; Deca (400 mg monday and thursday) - drop the deca for a first cycleWeek 1-10; winny ( half a cc tuesday friday) - drop the Winnie for a first cycle (first cycle = test only)Week 1-12; Arimidex .50mg avery 3 days
Pct will start 21 days after last pin
4 weeks Clomid
4 weeks Novaldex 50/50/25/25

Any contructive comment be appriciated

I'm finding some of this hard to believe. Your position is that in two years, you've gained 46lbs of lean body mass? if you can do this, why do you need steroids? I think before and after pics would give your claims more credibility

[MuscleInk]

Cheers to you all I m about to start my first cycle i`ve been training for to years started off at 140 lbs 12% bf and know i`m 180 at 6% bf and i`m 5`10
Here is the cycle i was told to do by my trainer a ex Mr Univers

Week 1-12; Test E (500mg monday and thursday)
Week 1-10; Deca (400 mg monday and thursday)
Week 1-10; winny ( half a cc tuesday friday)
Week 1-12; Arimidex .50mg avery 3 days
Pct will start 21 days after last pin
4 weeks Clomid
4 weeks Novaldex 50/50/25/25

Any contructive comment be appriciated

Very bad idea. Your first cycle should only be testosterone alone so you know how your body responds to anabolics. No more than 500mg total per week and plan on blood work after your cycle to have all your hormones assessed. I recommend a lipid analysis as well to check for signs of hyperlipidemia.

There's no inclusion of HCG in your cycle either or any mention of clomid doses.

[samude]

Clomid dose would be 100/100/50/50
this is me know at 180 and 6% bf

[MuscleInk]

Clomid dose would be 100/100/50/50
this is me know at 180 and 6% bf

100 is quite high and will make you prone to unpleasant side effects. 75 should suffice to start....but I also stand by my earlier comments regarding the cycle.

[samude]

Thanks MuscleInk will test only and clomid 75/75/75/75 and i would make a log and post pre during and post pic while my cycle

[Baxter35]

I haven't been around here long so I'm not trying to offer cycle advice. But I can say that there is a great group of guys on this forum and they won't steer you wrong. Heck, there is literally a step by step first cycle guide on here. I say stick to that, don't try to reinvent the wheel, and you'll be all set. Best of luck.

[that guy1]

My only guess is that your trainer is the one selling these products. As many have said, go with 250mg test e twice a week for not only your first cycle, but your first few. The gains will me phenomenal with proper dieting.
Not only so that you don't waste your money, but so you don't waste your health. Do you know how your body will react to each compound? Go into it slowly and your body will continue to gain. Less is more when you're first starting out.

[that guy1]

^ oh. And I'm not new around here. I forgot my old acct info because I hadn't logged in in months and I don't have it written.

[fit2bOld]

Clomid dose would be 100/100/50/50
this is me know at 180 and 6% bf

Even blurred that's not 6% BF.
So let's get real here.
Your definitely not ready.

[DrewZ]

My avi pic is MAYBE 8% natty, and I ain't ready.

Keep workin' on that base! lots of room to grow.

Nutrition nutrition nutrition.

[lovbyts]

My avi pic is MAYBE 8% natty, and I ain't ready.

Keep workin' on that base! lots of room to grow.

Nutrition nutrition nutrition.

I dont know about, I would not argue with you being ready. The OP??? I think you need to focus on adding some mass to your chest at the very least. Best a couple of years of good solid base building and pull up your pantz...

[Shield]

My first cycle was only test 400 a week and i got amazing results.

[lovbyts]

My first cycle was only test 400 a week and i got amazing results.

Well some people need to learn the hard way that the old saying more is not necessarily better is true especially when it comes to aas.

[Henrydot]

looks like a solid cycle if you say youre ready. people telling you that youre not ready isnt going to change your mind so might as well give it a shot.

[NACH3]

The very knowledgable members(& mostly everyone who is for real on this forum) will never steer you the wrong way(Fit2bOld, Lovbyts, MuscleInk, $ TR just in this thread... and many more are out there)! They are always trying to help the newbies to each other as one continues to learn on a daily in this subject. If ya don't know the basics(test only first couple cycles) you'll never be able to keep up with the ever changing compounds(not gear only either... SERMS, SARMS, etc, just to name a few! I will agree that you have a better shot at results with a better foundation(as anyone would)... Diet and training account for 90-95% of any gains!

Good luck my man... And do us all a favor and listen up to these vets(so to speak)!

[lovbyts]

looks like a solid cycle if you say youre ready. people telling you that youre not ready isnt going to change your mind so might as well give it a shot.

A solid cycle maybe for someone with a lot more experience. Not for a 1st cycle.

[NACH3]

Definitely agree 100%!

[tarmyg]

to years started off at 140 lbs 12% bf and know i`m 180 at 6% bf

40lb in two years! Impressive, got any before and after pics?

[bhmyers1968]

Even blurred that's not 6% BF.
So let's get real here.
Your definitely not ready.

I agree, how are you measuring bf? your not 6% mate.

[Deequarius]

Usually we have issues with guys skipping leg day... You definitely need to work on your chest man. And you are definitely not 6%. If you want to see what around 6% BF looks like, google Jeff Seid. That's what you'd look like. Your diet is definitely not in check. Hit the nutrition area of the forum, pick up some stuff there and also work on correcting some muscle imbalances and add some more weight... After all that come back and we can discuss a cycle more seriously.

[Capebuffalo]

[marty6674]

Amazed by the amount of info you guys all know about this stuff!!

[that guy1]

Stole this image. Might make a poster for the gym with permission.

[Times Roman]

I dont know about, I would not argue with you being ready. The OP??? I think you need to focus on adding some mass to your chest at the very least. Best a couple of years of good solid base building and pull up your pantz...

ha ha ha

gotta love it! =)