F*** you Tren, F*** you

[Black]

First time I ran Tren A @ 300mg, I felt so-so and had some nice body comp changes. Ran Tren E a second time @ 525mg and stopped at week 8 because I couldn't take it (miserable, felt like crap, etc.). From then on, I said I'd never take tren again. Well, a UGL messed up an order and to compensate for it, randomly sent me some tren. F***.

Instead of throwing it away, I ran another cycle of it @ 300mg a week. Actually, it was a decent cycle and I didn't feel as bad as I had in the past. I get bloodwork twice a year for TRT. It just so happened that my scheduled bloodwork fell two weeks after I stopped my last tren cycle (which was good, because I didn't get bloodwork for a few months after my last tren cycles).

Since I've started TRT, and getting bi-annual bloodwork, my CMP, Lipids and CBC have always been perfect and in range. Not this one. I have to guess that the cause is the tren. Regardless, RIP tren, I am done with you for good. Its just not worth it.

Aside from that, any input on the bloodwork is welcomed. How long should I wait to retest and see if the values have changed?

[lovbyts]

LOL, dont worry, it does the same thing to me, especially the liver function test but they go back to normal. Give it more time before doing blood work next time. My doctor freaked out a little and sent me to get all kinds of test done to check my liver.

It was actually a good thing and I didnt mind because I got to have ultra sound done to check everything and all way good including no signs of kidney stones which is a risk at my age.

At least your LDL is good, it tanks mine.

[SEOINAGE]

Biggest concern I see there is your thyroid. I'm tempted to never run tren again without t3. I swear it jacks it up. e2 is obviously a bit high.

[lovbyts]

Biggest concern I see there is your thyroid. I'm tempted to never run tren again without t3. I swear it jacks it up. e2 is obviously a bit high.

That's high??? Mine was 379 and yes that was sensitive. lol

[SEOINAGE]

Ya I like mine around 35-40, i guess 79 isn't horrid.

[Black]

LOL, dont worry, it does the same thing to me, especially the liver function test but they go back to normal. Give it more time before doing blood work next time. My doctor freaked out a little and sent me to get all kinds of test done to check my liver.

It was actually a good thing and I didnt mind because I got to have ultra sound done to check everything and all way good including no signs of kidney stones which is a risk at my age.

At least your LDL is good, it tanks mine.

Good to know. I've always heard the issues with tren, but then when you see the results on your blood panel, it becomes concerning.

I'm going to run some liver and kidney support and retest again in another month or so. Just to ease the mind.

[lovbyts]

Yeah always a good idea to retest. about a month after my cycle my numbers were perfectly find. My GP is a little confused but it's nice I time things right now so she has me getting liver test done about a month after cycle.

Twice now they were elevated, worse than your and within a month after they were fine.

[Black]

Biggest concern I see there is your thyroid. I'm tempted to never run tren again without t3. I swear it jacks it up. e2 is obviously a bit high.

I actually ran T3 with this last cycle. Estrogen has me baffled, yet again. A couple years ago, I started a new TRT regime of ED injections totaling 140mg a week. I did this to try and control my estrogen without an AI. I got bloodwork and my sensitive E2 came back at 10!

I've been on the same protocol for awhile now, so I'm not sure why its as high as it is. I'm actually leaner than I was before as well. Maybe my estrogen was still skewed from the cycle?

And I totally agree about t3 and tren. I think that's why I felt so much better on this last cycle than previous ones.

[tdoe11]

IMO your blood work is not very bad at all. I am shocked at your LDL. I've seen mine at 18 on test and dbol! Yours is very good. The things that are out of range are not out of hand by any means. A little time and you will be perfecto. Did you do a lot of cardio on that cycle?

[Black]

IMO your blood work is not very bad at all. I am shocked at your LDL. I've seen mine at 18 on test and dbol! Yours is very good. The things that are out of range are not out of hand by any means. A little time and you will be perfecto. Did you do a lot of cardio on that cycle?

I agree, nothing crazy out of range. Just not used to seeing the 'red flags' ever, nor post cycle.

Yes, I had started a decent amount of cardio several months ago and continued through the cycle.

[tdoe11]

I agree, nothing crazy out of range. Just not used to seeing the 'red flags' ever, nor post cycle. Yes, I had started a decent amount of cardio several months ago and continued through the cycle.

Cardio saved my lipids many times. Good to see your worried about your blood work though. For so many people it's not even a careless thought.

[darkcrayz]

Finishing up a cycle of 900 mg test/ 900 mg tren. 525 mg, pfft.

[Black]

Finishing up a cycle of 900 mg test/ 900 mg tren. 525 mg, pfft.

I know you're not bragging about the dose of steroids you are taking. I must be looking at your post wrong.

[lovbyts]

I know you're not bragging about the dose of steroids you are taking. I must be looking at your post wrong.

UGL so who knows what the numbers really were. That would be a shit load of tren

[kelkel]

Biggest concern I see there is your thyroid. e2 is obviously a bit high.

Agree with this. I'd pull a full panel in a couple months and see where you're at. And run liver support year round, imho. Simply working out raises liver enzymes.

[BG]

I'm done with tren also, just wreaks havoc on my body and I feel like crap so I don't train as well.

[lovbyts]

I think its another case where less is more. Try a low dose of 200mg a week

[Black]

Agree with this. I'd pull a full panel in a couple months and see where you're at. And run liver support year round, imho. Simply working out raises liver enzymes.

I'm going to order a full thyroid workup next go. Would those numbers be skewed from the T3 dosing at all?

I increased my volume/frequency, so I'm sure that didn't help the numbers. I've been taking NAC daily for months as well.

[Indymuscleguy]

When I took tren...1st cycle was amazing...got a new source and OMFG...severe...and I MEAN SEVERE Bacne. Going to give it one more try once I find a new source!

That first cycle was f'ing amazing...