Tapering down and PCT question

[dazzle1]

I'm finishing up my first cycle 12 weeks.

Up'd the dosage a bit for the last couple of weeks.

Been running TestE 750 and TrenE 750 for last two weeks. Bumped them both up two weeks ago to finish off.

I've been running 20mg of Nolva ED. No AI and No HcG.

I've been advised to taper off. What do you all think about tapering?

Suggested next week a half dose, the following a 1/4 dose, then off.

PCT will be

Colmid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Any suggestions or comments on the taper or my PCT.

[lovbyts]

Old school. No reason to taper up or down. make a plan and stick to it.

I know it's a little late but how many cycles have you done?

Never mind, I just checked.... It's your 1st cycle and you are running 750 test and 750 tren? This could be interesting in a few months. That's a sh*t load of gear and you may have some prolonged sides in the next few months to come. Even for a very experienced user 750 tren is a lot considering it's 5x stronger than test.

I hope you got some massive gains otherwise it was a waste IMO. I would bet you would have gotten better results running 500mg Test alone. If you are around long enough to learn anything one will hopefully be more is not better.

Did you do blood test during cycle? It would be interesting to see what your E2 did.

[Capebuffalo]

Agree with above.

[jimmyinkedup]

yeah, id run that nolva a couple more weeks at the end of your pct. This was ill advised with no e2 management and the other factors mentioned above.

[numbere]

That's one hell of a first cycle. You should add two more weeks of nolva during PCT.

[NACH3]

What a freakin doozy for a first cycle OP! I hope you don't stay shutdown my man! Good luck!

[RangerDanger830]

I really hope that when your libido crashes during PCT that you get on here and tell us about it so I can use you as an example to the other guys on here who refuse to educate themselves.

No AI, no HCG, first cycle with Test and Tren at 750/750...for shame.

I have just under ten cycles and wouldn't even consider going near those doses. Stupid ass idea.

[stevelifts]

If I were you Id hope and pray I recovered, take a step back and start this steroid thing all over from scratch.

[dazzle1]

Guys, I made a mistake. I'm doing my first cycle with help from swim. Swim measuring out the dosage for me. Swim is very experienced.

The pins are .75 test e 300mg/ml and .75 tren e 200mg/ml.

I am a newb, and that's why I'm here. I ****ed up.

I used a calculator to figure out I'm really running 150 tren e and 225 test e once a week; not these super high levels.
Really my bad. Thanks for calling me out. I feel more than stupid.

I have some sides, but not really many. Little trensomnia.
I've been running liv52 and NAC three times a day for liver and kidney support.

I've gained nearly 120lbs on my bench press and am very happy with the results on my frame and how I look. Very happy.

Notwithstanding my bonehead opening, I ask:

Taper or no taper?

[RangerDanger830]

I wasn't calling you stupid, I believe you are smart enough to listen to us on here. Taking Tren, any amount, with a first cycle is pretty stupid though, I am not going to sugarcoat that.

Since you are already coming off of the cycle then I will not preach to you about stopping immediately, even though that needs to be done. Do not taper off on the Tren and Test, there is no need. I think someone mentioned it above, that is an old school habit that is unnecessary.

You do however, need to run an AI, PA, AND HCG while on a cycle with a 19 nor. But you do not need to be doing cycles with 19nor steroids like Tren. It is far too powerful and you did not have a decent base of muscle, tendon, and ligament strength as witnessed by your incredible strength gain claim.

Be wary of future injury, hopefully your libido will recover but expect an almost guaranteed crash during PCT. Your PCT is good, just stop now so you can start PCT in two weeks.

You should've built a better base, then taken a cycle of plain old test by itself. Just know that while your muscles might can handle that 120lb gain in strength, your tendons and ligaments are struggling to keep up.

[dazzle1]

I'm going to get my bw done once I've finished this cycle. I honestly feel pretty dumb.

[Kozmo]

He's more informed then you and he probably wants you shutdown. Is swim your anabolic source

[jimmyinkedup]

who the hell is swim?

[Kozmo]

Someone who isn't me lol
It means anonymous

[jimmyinkedup]

Id wanna remain anon giving shitty advice like that too.....

[Kozmo]

Lmfao.