Good first cycle?

[aleko]

Hello, everybody! I am planning on starting my first cycle in a bout a month. I am going to be running test-e for 12 weeks. Here are my plans.

Week1-12 200 mg test e every 3.5 days (injections on Monday and Thursday)


Week 1 -12 hCG at 250iu every 3.5 days

Week 1 -14 Arimidex at .20 mg every other day

pct clomid 75/50/50/50
nolvadex 40/20/20/20 (havent really done much research on pct yet let me know what you think)


I'm also going to keep raloxifene on hand incase i start seeing gyno

Let me know what you guys think I heard running hcg from start isnt needed due to the fact that test takes about 2 weeks to kick in i also heard taking arimidex a week before starting the cycle to kick start the cycle please let me know what you guys think below

btw some stats 6'3" 210lbs 15% bf bench 225x5 squat 405x1 deadlift around 495x1 ive been training very stricly for the past 2 years


The reason I want to cycle is due to some goals I have.

[Kozmo]

How old are you

[RangerDanger830]

Everything looked good to go until I saw that your profile says 21. I would not recommend cycling yet because your test levels are higher than most adult males and you can still gain some naturally.

The accepted consensus is that your HPTA is more sensitive while it is developing and taking AAS early on could be detrimental to its long term function. Whether you agree with this consensus or not is one thing, but do you wanna risk it?

[Cuz]

If its good gear 400mg is a good choice assuming its not underdosed gear. Only problem I see is your age. At 21 its not advised that you cycle right now you could end up with some problems later down the road. But good cycle plan, I just think you should wait a few more years.

[Kozmo]

How did I know you were to young. The one thing you need to understand is your a girl

[aleko]

Everything looked good to go until I saw that your profile says 21. I would not recommend cycling yet because your test levels are higher than most adult males and you can still gain some naturally.

The accepted consensus is that your HPTA is more sensitive while it is developing and taking AAS early on could be detrimental to its long term function. Whether you agree with this consensus or not is one thing, but do you wanna risk it?

I understand all the risks of taking AAS and believe that I am ready at the age of 21. I have been researching on an off for the last year. Also like I said I have my reasons for wanting to cycle. I do not just want to cycle to look good and what not

[aleko]

If its good gear 400mg is a good choice assuming its not underdosed gear. Only problem I see is your age. At 21 its not advised that you cycle right now you could end up with some problems later down the road. But good cycle plan, I just think you should wait a few more years.

I thought this is the reason we PCT to avoid HPTA shutdown the PCT should jumpstart all my natural productions again.

[Cuz]

I thought this is the reason we PCT to avoid HPTA shutdown the PCT should jumpstart all my natural productions again.

Its "supposed" to...do you really believe there is a guarantee? Well there is not sorry.

[MuscleInk]

I thought this is the reason we PCT to avoid HPTA shutdown the PCT should jumpstart all my natural productions again.

Nope. No guarantee. Talk to the other 21 year olds who thought the same thing and it took them 8-12 months and their MD to find the best TRT plan to resolve their ED, loss of libido, depression, and more.

They ran correct cycles with a PCT and at 21 will need TRT the rest of their lives just to get erections and have normal sex drives.

Understanding the risks means you also understand you may NOT recover after a cycle and may need to deal with those consequences for the rest of your life.

[RangerDanger830]

I thought this is the reason we PCT to avoid HPTA shutdown the PCT should jumpstart all my natural productions again.

PCT will only get you so far and sometimes it is not enough. It is clear that you have done some facet of research but I want to make sure you have considered everything.

The chance of you being an HRT patient is surely higher if you take AAS, and most believe even higher if you do them young. Do you know how much TRT costs a month? Obamacare sure hasn't helped most people either. Do you want to risk having your success in bed depend on timed injections for the rest of your life? There are a lot of things guys say they consider but once they are years older and they can't get it up they tend to question their past decisions.

[aleko]

Nope. No guarantee. Talk to the other 21 year olds who thought the same thing and it took them 8-12 months and their MD to find the best TRT plan to resolve their ED, loss of libido, depression, and more.

They ran correct cycles with a PCT and at 21 will need TRT the rest of their lives just to get erections and have normal sex drives.

Understanding the risks means you also understand you may NOT recover after a cycle and may need to deal with those consequences for the rest of your life.

I see I also remember reading somewhere that running cycles under 8 weeks is a safe zone sort of. Would it be worth it to cut my cycle down four weeks?

[Kozmo]

What is your reason for wanting to cycle

[aleko]

What is your reason for wanting to cycle

Personal goals and reasons.

[aleko]

PCT will only get you so far and sometimes it is not enough. It is clear that you have done some facet of research but I want to make sure you have considered everything.

The chance of you being an HRT patient is surely higher if you take AAS, and most believe even higher if you do them young. Do you know how much TRT costs a month? Obamacare sure hasn't helped most people either. Do you want to risk having your success in bed depend on timed injections for the rest of your life? There are a lot of things guys say they consider but once they are years older and they can't get it up they tend to question their past decisions.

Like I said I understand the risks. They are risks I am willing to take.

[RangerDanger830]

If you are looking for approval it is not going to come from me. I am not sure why you are here if you aren't going to listen to us. You have done your research and made up your mind, the only thing left is to go ahead and do it. No sense in wasting our time.

[Cuz]

He has his mind made up..he wont listen.

[MuscleInk]

I see I also remember reading somewhere that running cycles under 8 weeks is a safe zone sort of. Would it be worth it to cut my cycle down four weeks?

No, there are no guarantees. You can't possibly know how your HTPA will be effected. Shut down is shut down. Some guys even walk away after one cycle with no immediate sidr effects only to find out later on, the unpleasant effects can happen even years after.

I've treated enough guys your age to know they simply should have waited a little longer.

It is the dogma of many members here not to condone use at your age. You may disagree of course, but we won't participate in any plan we feel is unsafe for anyone at your age.

[aleko]

No, there are no guarantees. You can't possibly know how your HTPA will be effected. Shut down is shut down. Some guys even walk away after one cycle with no immediate sidr effects only to find out later on, the unpleasant effects can happen even years after.

I've treated enough guys your age to know they simply should have waited a little longer.

It is the dogma of many members here not to condone use at your age. You may disagree of course, but we won't participate in any plan we feel is unsafe for anyone at your age.

advice taken i'll wait

[austinite]

Good call.