i'v started working out once more after a two year lay off. i dont know where to get gear. and kind of scared of ordering. so about six weeks ago i got some nugenex, creatine monahydrate, bcca's, agood whey protein, flax seed oil, zink, paba, b complex, and massive vitamin c...in the short time iv used this (and i use a lot) i can see my abs, i can do reps of millatary presses with 220 lbs, and my arms are an inch larger..iam sure some is water. the strange thing is i have both roter cuffs torn, the right one is so bad it cant be repaired. i tore them years ago. today iam 64years young..no benchpresses (they hurt) so it on with the overhead presses. the pump i get from the arm work is so good it feels like a rubbe tire pumped to the max. just thought id give my experance with test boosters to u all for thought..if anything changes ill repost. thx