Water weight retention ....1st cycle

[Bodacious]

After you do your cycle I know people put water weight on. How long does it take to get that off. I am asking because I plan on doing my first pin next monday.(I am going to post cycle later on in the week if everything goes right) and run my cycle for 10-12 weeks. I would like to run it 12 weeks just to get everything I can out of it. This will leave me 2 weeks before I go on vacation.To try and get water weight off. Or 10 week cycle will leave me with 4 weeks. I dont want to look all bloated with no difinition. Just a question I was just wondering. Thanks a lot everyone.

[uhit]

Just deplete your muscles of glycogen and you'll lose the water weight.

So keto diet for 3-5 days and you're sorted.

[frank13]

After you do your cycle I know people put water weight on. How long does it take to get that off. I am asking because I plan on doing my first pin next monday.(I am going to post cycle later on in the week if everything goes right) and run my cycle for 10-12 weeks. I would like to run it 12 weeks just to get everything I can out of it. This will leave me 2 weeks before I go on vacation.To try and get water weight off. Or 10 week cycle will leave me with 4 weeks. I dont want to look all bloated with no difinition. Just a question I was just wondering. Thanks a lot everyone.

So your going to go on a Vacation when u should be doing your pct?

[Bodacious]

So your going to go on a Vacation when u should be doing your pct?

The way I am going to plan it ( way I am thinking/might be wrong) I haven't posted yet because I need to make sure I can get BW done and get my pins next week.

But I was going to run

Weeks 1-12 ...Test E 400 per week... pin Monday and thur
Weeks 1-12.....HCG .250iu ....pin same day as test

Weeks 1-14....Armidex .25mg( quarter of pill) eod starting day after first pin.

I was going to keep using my Androgel though out the cycle and just keep on using it. (TRT)

Should I run my adex 2 weeks longer or should I stop that sense I will be going straight back to TRT (Androgel) veryou small amount tho. Two squizes. It's what I am prescribed.

[Bodacious]

So your going to go on a Vacation when u should be doing your pct?

But yes I will be... I just going to stop and keep using the gel. Right or am I wrong thanks.

If I decide to go through and everything works out like I am planning. Which I Dout it will. I have to go get BW next week for it to.

[< <Samson> >]

Water retention has a direct correlation to your estrogen #'s


You need to figure what are the best levels for you to run at.


Also, stay away from sodium & any other shit additives to your diet.

[Bodacious]

Water retention has a direct correlation to your estrogen #'s


You need to figure what are the best levels for you to run at.


Also, stay away from sodium & any other shit additives to your diet.

Yes I am going to try and stay away for the sodium for sure.

Thats one reason I want to get my BW done so I'll know what it is (E2) now, before I start. Along with the rest of the stuff.

There is a link on here that has recommend panel of BWto get done before cycle. I am going to try and get that one. If not the step above it.

[frank13]

The way I am going to plan it ( way I am thinking/might be wrong) I haven't posted yet because I need to make sure I can get BW done and get my pins next week.

But I was going to run

Weeks 1-12 ...Test E 400 per week... pin Monday and thur
Weeks 1-12.....HCG .250iu ....pin same day as test

Weeks 1-14....Armidex .25mg( quarter of pill) eod starting day after first pin.

I was going to keep using my Androgel though out the cycle and just keep on using it. (TRT)

Should I run my adex 2 weeks longer or should I stop that sense I will be going straight back to TRT (Androgel) veryou small amount tho. Two squizes. It's what I am prescribed.

I wouldn't worry about water wight to much make sure your estrogen is under control and your diet is clean I'd also up it to 500 mg a week and I would save the gel until u return to trt I'm no expert when it comes to trt but I would think the hcg would be a waste bc your on trt unless your using it for cosmetic purposes perhaps someone else can chime in but I would continue the adexx bc your levels will still be high for some time you also don't have a ai regiment being on trt ?

[frank13]

But yes I will be... I just going to stop and keep using the gel. Right or am I wrong thanks.

If I decide to go through and everything works out like I am planning. Which I Dout it will. I have to go get BW next week for it to.

Yes u don't a pct bc you just go back on trt

[< <Samson> >]

Yes u don't a pct bc you just go back on trt

Even if it's just Androgel?


I still don't know how to weigh out Androgel in the world of AAs

[frank13]

Even if it's just Androgel?


I still don't know how to weigh out Androgel in the world of AAs

Why would u Disagree ? I mean it's really just a different delivery system really

[< <Samson> >]

Why would u Disagree ? I mean it's really just a different delivery system really

Just because I know nothing about it. . . Is it a testosterone replacement?


But, yeah - no form of TRT needs PCT

[Bodacious]

Just because I know nothing about it. . . Is it a testosterone replacement?


But, yeah - no form of TRT needs PCT

Sorry guys got busy. Yes the way I take it its the same thing just different form and dose.

[Bodacious]

I wouldn't worry about water wight to much make sure your estrogen is under control and your diet is clean I'd also up it to 500 mg a week and I would save the gel until u return to trt I'm no expert when it comes to trt but I would think the hcg would be a waste bc your on trt unless your using it for cosmetic purposes perhaps someone else can chime in but I would continue the adexx bc your levels will still be high for some time you also don't have a ai regiment being on trt ?

Yea I am going to try my best to keep an eye on my estrogen. I am praying I am not to prone to the side of it. I have test e 400 so to make it easy I was just going to do 400 per week and draw .5 ml (200 per shot)just to make it easy. I might drop the gel till week 10 or so then jump back on for the last two week.

On the adexx I am guess i would run that two weeks longer after my last shot? Anyone got info on this here ?

[frank13]

Just because I know nothing about it. . . Is it a testosterone replacement?


But, yeah - no form of TRT needs PCT

Yes androgel is a topical testosterone cream you rub on the skin for trt

[Bodacious]

I wouldn't worry about water wight to much make sure your estrogen is under control and your diet is clean I'd also up it to 500 mg a week and I would save the gel until u return to trt I'm no expert when it comes to trt but I would think the hcg would be a waste bc your on trt unless your using it for cosmetic purposes perhaps someone else can chime in but I would continue the adexx bc your levels will still be high for some time you also don't have a ai regiment being on trt ?

Why do you think this for??

[Bodacious]

I dont take it now though.... ummm....

It just says that you should take it when on cycle so I am. Plus taking to the vets my doc should perscribe it to me. I am going to ask about it when I go back. But I am currently not on it.

Its says in the first cycle thread that you should take it and plus I want to have kids.

[< <Samson> >]

I knew that part

But, what does it keep your levels at?

[frank13]

Why do you think this for??

If you weren't on trt I would say do it you'd hopefully recover faster or if your worried about your fertility do it but if your on trt and you don't do it on trt now what's the point

[frank13]

I dont take it now though.... ummm....

It just says that you should take it when on cycle so I am. Plus taking to the vets my doc should perscribe it to me. I am going to ask about it when I go back. But I am currently not on it.

Its says in the first cycle thread that you should take it and plus I want to have kids.

Yes if u want kids it something u should talk to your doc about

[Bodacious]

before I was at 280s-300 then I got on it now Im at 480-the most i Have had was 501 and that was right when I woke up.

Its helped me a lot. Dont really care about the numbers its help with they way I feel and sleep and just with every day stuff. Mood and ect..

[Bodacious]

Yes if u want kids it something u should talk to your doc about

Yea I am going to.

[Bodacious]

If you weren't on trt I would say do it you'd hopefully recover faster or if your worried about your fertility do it but if your on trt and you don't do it on trt now what's the point

Yea I am going to. I dont understand why I am not on it now either after talking to some vets on here.

[< <Samson> >]

before I was at 280s-300 then I got on it now Im at 480-the most i Have had was 501 and that was right when I woke up.

Its helped me a lot. Dont really care about the numbers its help with they way I feel and sleep and just with every day stuff. Mood and ect..

Shit yeah, if it works for you that's all it needs to do


Beats the shit out of getting shots

[frank13]

Yea I am going to. I dont understand why I am not on it now either after talking to some vets on here.

Who knows I guess your doc didn't think it was necessary u just have to ask

[Bodacious]

Shit yeah, if it works for you that's all it needs to do


Beats the shit out of getting shots

Yea but it does get old putting it on everyday. Will you see what you think about my armidex i sent you a link. Or anyone else. Look at it and see if its legit? Thanks

[Bodacious]

going to be nervous as hell for the first few shots. I just dont want nothing to go bad. lol

[< <Samson> >]

Few shots - oh I remember back to 3 years ago & saying the same shit.


Now I feel like a pin cushion. My summer cycled are shot daily, I use TNE before workouts and my usual maintenance of e3d, then HCG.

[Bodacious]

Few shots - oh I remember back to 3 years ago & saying the same shit.


Now I feel like a pin cushion. My summer cycled are shot daily, I use TNE before workouts and my usual maintenance of e3d, then HCG.

lol... I just want to get one under my belt. Then reevaluated everything. I have heard and have been told once you go you will love it this and that. So we will see I hope. I just alway check and recheck and then check again because I want everything to good ok. lol

If it wasnt for this site I dont know what i would do. I know Kel and Austine and you and few other guys have really really helped me.

[< <Samson> >]

It's def a big learning curve

I still learn new shit regularly.

[lovbyts]

before I was at 280s-300 then I got on it now Im at 480-the most i Have had was 501 and that was right when I woke up.

Its helped me a lot. Dont really care about the numbers its help with they way I feel and sleep and just with every day stuff. Mood and ect..

You're one of the lucky ones. it seems most people it does very little to nothing. Very little for me so I went to injections and everything is much better. A buddy of mine just started TRT and is up to 6 pumps a day just to reach around 400. Ive also hear it's less effective over time.

How much androgel are you using? I would not bother to take it during cycle though, just save it. I dont think you will see any increase using it or not.

[Bodacious]

You one of the lucky ones. it seems most people it does very little to nothing. Very little for me so I went to injections and everything is much better. A buddy of mine just started TRT and is up to 6 pumps a day just to reach around 400. Ive also hear it's less effective over time.

How much androgel are you using? I would not bother to take it during cycle though, just save it. I dont think you will see any increase using it or not.

2 pumps a day. Its night and day difference in the way I feel sleep sex drive my mood everything it has helped me. Thats just me though.

[lovbyts]

2 pumps a day. Its night and day difference in the way I feel sleep sex drive my mood everything it has helped me. Thats just me though.

That's good, if it's not broke dont fix it.