My new pics!!

**lilbull** · 06-12-2003, 09:45 PM

Here's my new pics!! Critique and advize please!

**lilbull** · 06-12-2003, 09:47 PM

my favorite one here!!

**lilbull** · 06-12-2003, 09:51 PM

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**JDawg1536** · 06-12-2003, 11:45 PM

your arms are looking good. hit the bench to pump that chest up and do some rows and pulldowns for your back. Also, dont neglect the sit-ups! You definately have a good base.

**lilbull** · 06-13-2003, 06:08 AM

aight man, thanks. Anyone else got ideas?

**wannabmassive** · 06-13-2003, 06:24 AM

u have good arms but its way ahead of the rest of your body, i rekkon u need to get doin sum wide grip pull ups also ur traps look good when tensed do sum heavy shrugging

**roidmanraging** · 06-13-2003, 08:16 AM

Do you workout your back? The shoulder development is fine. I'd be more concerned with diet if I were you.

**mammoth** · 06-13-2003, 08:34 AM

How old are you? What are your goals? You say that you've done a cycle of Deca and D-bol....might I ask why? Stay away from the gear for now. Advice?? Train, Eat, Sleep, Repeat. Do that for about 2 years then post another pic. You don't look bad at all right now. You just need to add the mass is all. Pay close attention to your diet because if you eat the wrong stuff while trying to add mass you will add too much fat to your frame, and you will regret it later. Just stick to a program and give it time to work. Like I said earlier, stay away from gear right now. If you don't know how to train then gear aint gonna do squat. I am not trying to flame, but you can't tell me that you have years of training under your belt. If you actually did then I would say that you wasted those precious years. Good luck and keep us posted.

**lilbull** · 06-13-2003, 08:53 AM

yeha I know I prob should have held off on the deca- dbol cycle, but I was didn't know what I was doing. I'm 20. I've gotten a lot more educated now and I'm about to start bulking again, I've just got really slow metabolism so it's hard for me to bulk without putting on a lot of fat. And then it's hard for me to cut down.Thanks though. Anyone else's opinions? I'll take all the advice I can get.

**mammoth** · 06-13-2003, 10:40 AM

First off, with a build like yours, you can't even begin to say that you have a slow metabolism. You are not fat. Also, if you are gaining excess fat while bulking then you need to re-evaluate what you are eating. At your age you should be able to gain mass easily without gaining excess fat. It doesn't look like you were ever a fat kid so I would say that your metabolism is fine.

**rockstarz_g** · 06-13-2003, 11:10 AM

Nice peak on those biceps! I have to say what you already know. With good arms and shoulders. Putting on a little chest "shape" and some increase in AB definition you would like awesome. Don't worry about eating enough to get a huge chest. I am 22 and unless you're a genetic freak you'll never grow a chest quick enough to keep up with your other gains. I am guessing you work your arms alot as it is. Step up the incline benches and ab work. Pm if you want some more info!

**cdog** · 06-13-2003, 11:23 AM

You have a great base try to focus on bench ,deads squats and rows.These will add mass as well as strength .Good luck ............CDOG

**lilbull** · 06-13-2003, 04:58 PM

Thanks guys, I appreciate all the advice. Rockstarz, I like the avatar. Everyone keeps mentioning my arms and saying they're way ahead of my other parts and I think it might be because I use really strict form on my arms. So, I'm gonna start using the same strict form on all the rest of me like I should have done in the first place.
Mammoth- I have been fat before, to get my bf down to where it is right now I only eat about 1500 cal a day. I've heard that's slow metabolism, but if I'm wrong or if you think something else then give me advice.
Thanks to everyone, and all other advice is still appreciated.

**stillsmall** · 06-13-2003, 05:03 PM

bro sorry to break it to ya but it has got about 5% to do with strict form.. lol...your arms grew cuz genetically, they are light years ahead of everything else.. keep liftin' though, you are coming along just fine

**mammoth** · 06-13-2003, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by lilbull

Mammoth- I have been fat before, to get my bf down to where it is right now I only eat about 1500 cal a day. I've heard that's slow metabolism, but if I'm wrong or if you think something else then give me advice.
Thanks to everyone, and all other advice is still appreciated.

If you once were fat then you don't show it. Most people who were fat before show some signs of it after they lose the weight. Also, what you may think is fat may be different from my opinion. Anyhow, I truly believe you have a good base to build upon. Just keep pumpin and concentrate on your diet! If you want to grow you are going to have to eat so make sure that your calories are slightly above maintenence. Good luck to ya bro!

**Huge Presser** · 06-13-2003, 05:57 PM

Lower bf then myself, my guess is about 7%... looking lean def. not slow metabolism... my only flame: hit the chest and shoulders hard... good job on bis and midsection.
What is your age bro?
Once again, great job.

HUGE PRESSER

**lilbull** · 06-13-2003, 07:08 PM

I'm 20. Thanks for the compliments and the critiques. Keep em comin.
Thanks,
Bull

**xtremesport14** · 06-13-2003, 07:28 PM

Post your chest workout to get help with it. I'd concentrate on chest and back mostly as you do that they will help to build everywhere else too.

**lilbull** · 06-13-2003, 07:52 PM

right now my chest workout is this:
Flat bench : 155/8 x4 (lbs/reps)
Incline bench: 125/8, 125/8, 130/8, 130/8
Incline flies: 40/8, 45/8, 45/8, 45/8
Lifting Cable Crossovers: 20/8, 20/8, 20/8, 20/8
Normal cable crossovers: 40/8, 40/8, 50/8, 50/8

That's from my log from last week.

**Jason Donovan** · 06-13-2003, 08:16 PM

Abby Long?

**pornstar79** · 06-14-2003, 04:07 AM

Good job! you dont need to bulk..just try to get ripped!

**xtremesport14** · 06-14-2003, 10:09 AM

concentrate on the lower and inner parts of your chest. Don't see you doing any decline?

**lilbull** · 06-14-2003, 02:30 PM

I didn't think it was around 7% either, I was thinking more like 10ish or so though, I know it isn't 15%-17%. I also haven't worked abs in a long time so I prob need to do that more. Thanks for all the advice guys, All other advice is welcome. thanks.

**lilbull** · 06-14-2003, 07:44 PM

Anyone who wants to give me more advice, please help me.
Thanks,
Bull

**unknown $eph** · 06-14-2003, 09:00 PM

i'm no one to really comment but try working the chest alittle more. get around 2 - 3 excersizes with 3 - 4 sets. Bent-over Rows for your back and some Lat pulldowns also. maybe a 4 sets of standing barbell curls with preacher curls also. you have a great base to start with, concentrate on gaining mass.

**lilbull** · 06-15-2003, 08:30 PM

Thanks for all of your comments guys
I'm about to start bulking again. If anyone else has any comments or opinions please post. thanks
Bull

**Huge Presser** · 06-15-2003, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Peter North

sorry to burst your bubble if you bought into the bf% hugepresser gave you, but i would say a more accurate guess is about 15-17%. 7% would show the 6 cut sections of your abs, and your vascularity would become more apparent. regardless of that fact concentrate on continuing to add muscle. your diet is key to adding quality weight. it is possible to add large amounts of muscle with little fat, however, your diet must be right on to pull it off. it's just a matter of wanting it bad enough to do it! PN

Yea lilbull my bad. I read this post, scrolled back up, checked the pics. Guess I thought cuz you had a well defined back you were lower.
Not 15%, there's no way... more then likely 10-12. But as we've seen, I'm not the best at guessing

. But at 17% he would have a little gut I would think??? Have it tested and let us know.

HUGE PRESSER

**lilbull** · 06-15-2003, 10:46 PM

I'll have it tested and let everyone know.

**lilbull** · 06-22-2003, 10:06 AM

I got my Bf% tested and it was 9%, but I've put on about 5lbs since the pics were taken some I'm thinkin I was probably about 8% in the pics. I think the reason a lot of my definition wasn't showing is because the flash was so darn bright it made my muscles look flat. oh well, I just said I'd get it tested so I did. Thanks for all the advice guys.

**TheJuicer** · 06-22-2003, 01:48 PM

I'm I the only bro around here that does a short workout..I lift 3x a week..Chest/shoulders/tris...Back/Bis...Legs/calves/Abs. Bro stick to the basics...I do 3 exercise for large Muscles and 2 exercises for small muscles..Alway include Bench,Squat,and Deadlifts in your workout plan for they are the best exercises IMO! I'm cutting right now and my diet is definatly not 1500 cals..I eat that by lunch..go to the diet forum and look around they will give you great ideas..tuna,chicken,fish,eggs(protein), potatoes,brown rice or wild rice,yams, ect.(complex carbs) Good fats,(flax oil,natural pb (yum))...PM me if you need anything..I just wish i had someone like this board when i started out..Very smart bros...just listen and remember..go to the gym..kick your ass (HIT) and get the f##k out and go get a protein shake with dextrose! Good luck..love peaks man!!

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