Tren and test question

[Haydenz]

Hey guys,
Planning my next cycle and have been reading for the past month on tren and how to cycle without I get lost and caught up in the long debate of
Low test , high tren
High tren , low test
And what I gathered from most is that :
The high test low tren cycles had more of muscle gain and the low test high tren had less muscle gain but a lot more fat melting

So my question today is..
If I run tren for 12 weeks and do
1-8 high test low tren , eat in a surplus
Then
8-12 low test high tren, eat in a deficient

Will this be a good bulk/cut heading into summer ( because I'm Aussie )

Or should I just pick one or the other and let the diet just do it's work ??

[frank13]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-thread.html

[RigPig]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-thread.html

That is a stellar article! Thanks for the link Frank13!

[Haydenz]

Cheers for the article brother , but I have read it plenty of times, but I have read plenty of others though as well, think I'll take the dive and do high tren over test

[ghettoboyd]

which ever way you choose realize that your diet and training will dictate the true results not the compounds themselves imho...and your idea of 8 weeks bulk then the rest cutting isn't going to pan out like you are thinking most likely I would just choose one or the other and be consistent through out...good luck...

[Haydenz]

Thanks ghetto, decision is made. appreciate it, following yet again another good article from here is always the right choice

[frank13]

Cheers for the article brother , but I have read it plenty of times, but I have read plenty of others though as well, think I'll take the dive and do high tren over test

Yes I would do a very low test

[600@50]

I've tried various combinations of tren and test and I get my best results with the lowest sides when the cycle is low test and high tren. Sides are easily managed and I get very good gains. The only real issue I have is eating enough as my appetite is nonexistent with tren.

[Buster Brown]

What are your stats? I think that is a good barometer in terms of more tes then tren or vice versa. I have done both and think there are pros and cons to each.

[Haydenz]

Hey ill throw my stats in

28
83kgs
15%
5.10
training for 6 years , competed 4 times
Diet is flawless, I have a coach and a nutritionist
Goals would be as i am a competitor is to come first in the next Arnold classic i compete in and become pro