1st Cycle

[mingotron]

Hey guys, just wondering what your thoughts are on my 1st cycle that I'm planning on doing. I want to put on a lot of size but try and maintain as much muscle mass as I can after the cycle is done. I have till April to finalize my plans for the cycle so I have lots of time to revise it. Thanks for any suggestions.

19 years old
6'1
205 lbs
13% bf
Goal is to put on 20-25 pounds in 10 weeks of solid mass

Weeks 1-10

Test E: 600 mg/week (300mg Monday and 300mg on Thursday)
Eq: 300 mg/week (150mg Monday and 150mg on Thursday) (Run weeks 1-9, 1 week before last pin of Test E)
Arimidex: 0.25 or 0.5mg EOD
Proviron: 25 mg ED


Weeks 1-4

Dbol: 25-40 mg ED


Weeks 6-10

HCG: 500 iu's 2x per week (1,000 total per week)


Weeks 12-16: PCT

Clomid (70/50/50/50)
Nolvadex (40/20/20/20)

[ElGringo]

- nobody in here will advice you to cycle if you're under 25 years of age.
- you can run the test at like 400mg or 500mg/week, you don't need 600mg
- you don't need EQ
- you don't need Dbol
- run the hcg at 500iu/week; 2x 250iu injections

[Khazima]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

You're (we're) way too young for steroids, your cycle is a mess for a first and your goals are unrealistic.

[mingotron]

Ok, probably won't run the EQ then. And yea 250iu hcg 2x/week is more suitable.. What about the proviron? I wan't to put on mass but don't want to put on a ton of water weight and proviron helps with that. Thoughts? I'll probably still want to run the dbol at 30 mg for 4 weeks.. And after researching the more test e you run the more gains you make.. You think 600 is too much? The main reason behind doing a cycle is to get to the next level for football.

[Khazima]

Or just ignore what I said that fine, have fun being miserable from low T in your early 20s

[mingotron]

Khazima I've read the blog. After following the revised cycle that I've planned I don't see my test levels getting effected that negatively with the HCG and clomid along with nolva, it's one cycle. I literally am not allowed to cycle after that due to drug testing, so there is no temptation possible to do another, at least not until the following year out of season.

[itsjayman02]

Khazima I've read the blog. After following the revised cycle that I've planned I don't see my test levels getting effected that negatively with the HCG and clomid along with nolva, it's one cycle. I literally am not allowed to cycle after that due to drug testing, so there is no temptation possible to do another, at least not until the following year out of season.

Another one we cant save !!!

[Khazima]

Another one we cant save !!!

Seems that way unfortunately. I can't comprehend how people my age are so naive.

[mingotron]

khazima how old are you

[Khazima]

khazima how old are you

Same age as you bro.

[lovbyts]

Same age as you bro.

Sometimes it's not about age but maturity.

Here you go Mingotron. Here is a good link to follow.
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutri...zimas-log.html

PS.
What I forgot to add is, we preach all the time your not to young (18+) to be here, educate yourself and learn about aas so when you are ready (mid 20s) then you will know more and have a MUCH better chance of having many sucessful cycles without the negative sides.

Every once in a while we get through to someone and they become a valuable member and knowledgeable about aas without even using them. I know learning by others mistakes is a concept most kids dont understand but luckily some do. Thanks Khazima

[Khazima]

Sometimes it's not about age but maturity.

Here you go Mingotron. Here is a good link to follow.
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutri...zimas-log.html

PS.
What I forgot to add is, we preach all the time your not to young (18+) to be here, educate yourself and learn about aas so when you are ready (mid 20s) then you will know more and have a MUCH better chance of having many sucessful cycles without the negative sides.

Every once in a while we get through to someone and they become a valuable member and knowledgeable about aas without even using them. I know learning by others mistakes is a concept most kids dont understand but luckily some do. Thanks Khazima

Thanks for the kind words lovbyts, without this community and the people in it I'd be in all kinds of trouble right now.