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Thread: First Cycle finished, 2nd cycle critique

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    First Cycle finished, 2nd cycle critique

    So today, I start my PCT. I followed Austinites guide to a T although I did 10 weeks Test E and finished off with 2 weeks of Test P, last pin on Monday. For those that don't know, I started taking AAS because my chest NEVER grew, it never even shaped up and my max bench was 85kg. Genetics are a bitch huh? That all changed. Chest now looks fuller, shaped up and bench sky rocketed to 110kg for 4 reps on last set. I gained maybe around 5 lbs lean mass and dropped about 5% bf, going from 20% to 15%. Cardio virtually 4 days a week, 15 mins, Veins coming out of places I didnt even know they could come out of. Altogether, I think a semi successful cycle considering it is my first. But I will leave the analysis to you guys. I ate pretty clean, my libido went through the roof but one thing I did not feel is the 'hunger' everyone seems to always talk about. That was more or less the same, although I eat every 2-3 hours anyway as I am an ectomorph. Anyway here are my stats for people that don't know:

    Age: 25
    Weight: 195lbs, dropping from 200lbs (leaner look, vascularity increase, shaped up more, chest popped out, stomach got flatter, this was always the plan)
    Height: 6'3"

    I ate approx 200g protein, 230g carbs and 60g fats everyday, fats coming mostly from fish and nuts. 50g protein came from protein shakes, dropped the mass gainer as advised and ate a boat load of greens. 2 cheat days, Sat and Sun, where I ate everything. Kebabs, KFC, ice cream etc etc.

    So I have decided to do a second cycle consisting of sust 250 and d-bol or t-bol. Is this too big a jump? Or should I try Test 400 next? Plan to drop to maybe drop a further 3-5% bf before starting AAS again.

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    Good job on the results.

    What is your goal for the next cycle?

    Not sure if you looking for critique on the other stuff but me personally, I would drop one of those cheat days, increase cardio to 30-45 mins and increase protein a little bit to 250-300.

    What mg where you planning on running?

    Be careful cutting while in pct and between cycles. Might drop more muscle then you'd want.

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    My goal is too pack on another 5-10lbs lean mass. Going for the athletic look. A bit more striated. I know its cliche, but hey, I'm single, working, young. I have all the time in the world...for now, and I want to make it for all its worth.

    Thanks for the advice, I will take it into consideration, and you are right, 2 cheat days is a little OTT. Will probably just make it a Sunday from now on. Its a bit tough getting more meals in a day, I do shift work and I can get 'locked in' which means I can go 3-4 hours without nutrition sometimes, when its crazy busy. This makes it a lot tougher but I try my best to adjust. I also have to adapt accordingly. One week nights, next week mornings.

    I was 'advised' to do sust 250 week 1-12 3x a week

    Have taken your warning into consideration and will adjust diet if muscle loss is extreme.

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    Glad you had results that you were happy with. I would do a correct PCT and get blood work to see where you were left off. Then think about your next cycle if blood comes back good.
    I would stick to just Test at this point since it only your second cycle and could still grow on just test very nicely. 500mg/w is a good range and one that will continue to give good results. I have done multiple cycles and 500mg/w is still all i take with excellent results.

    Also understand that the drop in BF you witnessed as well as veins and such was due to your diet, so for you next cycle, polish up your diet even more and you will have even better results. I would start diet now and lean out a bit more before your next cycle and you will notice even better gains than you did now.

    Good luck!

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