should i blast and cruise?

[bw0434]

24 years old
5'10 210lbs 12-13% bf

Just finished a 20 week test e cycle at 600 mg. My plan was to cruise at 200mg for a while then do another cycle with test and tren, then do pct and come off for a while. I took my first cruise dose this week but now I can't make up my mind if I should do what I inteneded to do or just do pct and take time off now before my next cycle.

Wanted to hear what you guys think.

[davidtheman100]

Short answer, no.

[bw0434]

Short answer, no.

Thanks bro, what I'm leaning towards, still will wait for some others to chime in, but if I do decide to go on pct when would I start. I finished my cycle Thursday Nov 25. Then yesterday I planned on cruising so I just pinned 200mg of test e. If I wanted to do pct now would I wait 2 weeks from my end of cycle pin or the pin I did yesterday,

[michael30]

If your not making a living from this or on trt. Why would you stay on all the time? Staying on is a huge commitment, especially if not prescribed by a dr.

[bw0434]

If your not making a living from this or on trt. Why would you stay on all the time? Staying on is a huge commitment, especially if not prescribed by a dr.

I don't plan on staying on all the time. I did my cycle and was gonna cruise until my next cycle and then do pct and come off for a while due to testing in athletics that I'm in.

[< <Samson> >]

The longer you stay on, the harder it becomes to come off

[michael30]

Ok how long would you be on total? Also why do you feel staying on would be beneficial?

[< <Samson> >]

I stayed on for slightly over 7 months. The PCT & post PCT will bring damn near anyone to their knees.

One one of my buds was recently forced to come off after almost 2 years on. He just sounds bad - I mean real bad. . . . .


Your recovery time increases with the amount and length we are on juice.


I stayed on after my 3rd run. It has been more beneficial so far - No complications from the cruising doses. But, I'm in mid 30's & had crap test levels to start with.

[bw0434]

Ok how long would you be on total? Also why do you feel staying on would be beneficial?

Around 9 months maybe. I felt like instead of doing pct waiting then doing another cycle and pct again and just fluctuating my hormones all over the place it would be better to cruise and blast then do only one pct.

Still open to either choice, just looking what would be best for me

[qscgugcsq]

Im not a fan of cycling but you would have plenty of time to pct and do another one.

Keep in mind you are only 24...
Are you ready to stay on for 60 years, if you can avoid it??

[Khazima]

just looking what would be best for me

Come off and start PCT 2 weeks after your last shot.

[bw0434]

Im not a fan of cycling but you would have plenty of time to pct and do another one.

Keep in mind you are only 24...
Are you ready to stay on for 60 years, if you can avoid it??

Yea what I'm leaning towards. Gonna suck, my girl coming down here to stay for a month right in the midths of my pct would be haha

[got fina?]

I wouldn't do that. i would do a correct PCT, get blood work, and when you see your numbers return to normal ranges, think about your next cycle. You mentioned you are thinking about taking Test/Tren for your next cycle. Why? What didnt you like about just taking Test? What are you trying to accomplish in your cycle that just the Test cycle didnt do?

All these questions would help us lead you in the right direction. I also bet that the reason you are thinking about cruising or already doing a stronger cycle than your last is because you didnt diet properly and leaned to heavily on your cycle, thinking steroids would fix everything.
Well surprise, surprise, it never does. The bad news for you is that if you did another Test cycle and this time threw in some Tren and also didnt diet, you will be very disappointed with that cycle too and will already be thinking about your next cycle being Test/Tren/Winstrol.

I think all your problems will be sorted out if you just took Test 500mg/w and dieted like you never dieted before. This cycle and diet will blow away any amount of things you can take, and not diet.

Good luck!

[lovbyts]

Yea what I'm leaning towards. Gonna suck, my girl coming down here to stay for a month right in the midths of my pct would be haha

So what? If you did things right it should be a non issue. Most people go through PCT without noticing anything at all. If you have experienced a difficult PCT in the past that is all the more reason to NOT do a cruise or extended cycle. That is a big sign of things to come IMO and you had better get things worked out or you will be experiencing a lot worse soon.

[bw0434]

Thanks for the help guys looks like I'll just go on pct. Did I f up taking a cruise dose this week tho? Do I just start my pct 2 weeks after my 200 mg pin.

So I did 20 weeks test e 600 mg then
1 week 200 mg (cruise dose) but now want to do pct

[< <Samson> >]

Wait like 10 days from your last shot & start PCT

You should be aight


Keep your head up, it might be a rough ride. Or you can be one of the lucky ones


Hit a heavy 5 week PCT & Take about 3k mg of Tribulus a day< It helped my #'s a lot, but I never really got to feeling solid. But, I did get back to feeling like I did pre cycle, shit maybe even a tad better. My #'s were in the mid 600's of total test. Which is almost double before I started lifting.

[bw0434]

Wait like 10 days from your last shot & start PCT

You should be aight


Keep your head up, it might be a rough ride. Or you can be one of the lucky ones


Hit a heavy 5 week PCT & Take about 3k mg of Tribulus a day< It helped my #'s a lot, but I never really got to feeling solid. But, I did get back to feeling like I did pre cycle, shit maybe even a tad better. My #'s were in the mid 600's of total test. Which is almost double before I started lifting.

Thanks man appreciate it.

I went on prohormone forum and asked this same question and mostly every said cruise and blast. But glad I came her and did my own research and shit.

[< <Samson> >]

Thanks man appreciate it.

I went on prohormone forum and asked this same question and mostly every said cruise and blast. But glad I came her and did my own research and shit.

Ask any semi experienced juicer on what they think of PH


PH should not even be an option, but some are so scared of the spike

[bw0434]

Ask any semi experienced juicer on what they think of PH


PH should not even be an option, but some are so scared of the spike

Hahah wait you taking about prohormones? I meant the website forum.

[< <Samson> >]

I meant the website forum.

I'm pretty sure that's the forum focused on. . . .

Funny part is that they do work, but not like you would think. They shut you down & there is no real way to tell how much. At least with test, you know it's test & @ what dose(unless it's bunk, lol)

[bw0434]

I'm pretty sure that's the forum focused on. . . .

Funny part is that they do work, but not like you would think. They shut you down & there is no real way to tell how much. At least with test, you know it's test & @ what dose(unless it's bunk, lol)

Haha no bro my bad I meant I went to another forum and asked the same question about cruising and they all recommended me to cruise and blast instead of cycling off. My fault for the confusion

[bw0434]

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[lovbyts]

Thanks man appreciate it.

I went on prohormone forum and asked this same question and mostly every said cruise and blast. But glad I came her and did my own research and shit.

What a bunch of morons. How many LONG term members do they have there? 2 years is probably a LONG time. lol

I suspect they go through members pretty quick there since they probably promote their own brand pro hormones and anyone who starts to complain to loud bets banned.

Haha no bro my bad I meant I went to another forum and asked the same question about cruising and they all recommended me to cruise and blast instead of cycling off. My fault for the confusion

Just saw this. Well same thing, bunch of morons.

[< <Samson> >]

What a bunch of morons. How many LONG term members do they have there? 2 years is probably a LONG time. lol

I suspect they go through members pretty quick there since they probably promote their own brand pro hormones and anyone who starts to complain to loud bets banned.

Sounds about how I'd see it

[Back In Black]

Did you run HCG for the duration of your cycle?

[bw0434]

Did you run HCG for the duration of your cycle?

No was gonna use it to kick start pct prob for 3 weeks before I started pct

[michael30]

No was gonna use it to kick start pct prob for 3 weeks before I started pct

Hcg should be run during cycle. Not during pct!

[bw0434]

Hcg should be run during cycle. Not during pct!

Yea I know was gonna use it the last week of my cycle then the two weeks before pct.

If I were to blast and cruise should I use hcg during cruise dose, I heard no

[< <Samson> >]

You use HCG in parallel to running your gear

[kelkel]

Yea I know was gonna use it the last week of my cycle then the two weeks before pct.

If I were to blast and cruise should I use hcg during cruise dose, I heard no

You need to consider something similar to the Scally Power PCT since you did not use any hcg during this cycle.

[bw0434]

You need to consider something similar to the Scally Power PCT since you did not use any hcg during this cycle.

I heard it's really not neccassary and should recover fine with nolva and Clomid. My balls don't look like they shrunk too much. If I were to cruise then blast the pct I would definately use it towards the end of my blast leading up to pct tho

[Lee_1978]

I wouldn't do that. i would do a correct PCT, get blood work, and when you see your numbers return to normal ranges, think about your next cycle. You mentioned you are thinking about taking Test/Tren for your next cycle. Why? What didnt you like about just taking Test? What are you trying to accomplish in your cycle that just the Test cycle didnt do?

All these questions would help us lead you in the right direction. I also bet that the reason you are thinking about cruising or already doing a stronger cycle than your last is because you didnt diet properly and leaned to heavily on your cycle, thinking steroids would fix everything.
Well surprise, surprise, it never does. The bad news for you is that if you did another Test cycle and this time threw in some Tren and also didnt diet, you will be very disappointed with that cycle too and will already be thinking about your next cycle being Test/Tren/Winstrol.

I think all your problems will be sorted out if you just took Test 500mg/w and dieted like you never dieted before. This cycle and diet will blow away any amount of things you can take, and not diet.

Good luck!

I know nothing about Tren, but doesn't it pack on more lean, hard mass than Test?

[lovbyts]

I know nothing about Tren, but doesn't it pack on more lean, hard mass than Test?

Only if you are ready for it, diet and training is right and you know how to run it right. It also has more severe sides and you need more precautions/AI's than a normal test cycle or most others. 19 nors can be a bitch to a lot of people

[Back In Black]

I heard it's really not neccassary and should recover fine with nolva and Clomid. My balls don't look like they shrunk too much. If I were to cruise then blast the pct I would definately use it towards the end of my blast leading up to pct tho

There's much more to it than testicular size.

Sounds to me like you made up your mind you are going to cruise and go old school in your pct rather than listen to any advice given here.

Good luck.

[bw0434]

There's much more to it than testicular size.

Sounds to me like you made up your mind you are going to cruise and go old school in your pct rather than listen to any advice given here.

Good luck.

No still open, but if I were to cruise should I use the hcg during cruise dose then?

[lovbyts]

Only if you dont want raisins for balls and you want to keep the chance of being fertile in the future.

[jimmyinkedup]

Look bast and cruise is not all its craked up to be, at all. I was in my 40's with natty T levels in the mid too upper 700's after years of cycling and pct, I had the brilliant idea I would do this (blast and cruise). A self prescibed trt type cruise and a few blasts. Its not what you would think You dont get the results you might expect, Your response to the blasts is diminished, it just is, I cant say for sure why- there is no receptor down regulation, but the physiological response is diminished. All I accomplished was a sturggle to return to my pre blast T levels and my results were no better than if I did cycles with PPCT's. The cruise or trt is not what it is cracked up to be man. For those that truly need it trt is a god send but the cruise thing when you dont need it is not what you would think. This is my first hand experience If I got what I thought I was going to, Id be all for it, but it just didnt work that way man. This was my take in my 40's with trt in my future, no way would I ever recommend it to someone in their 20's (or any age really).
Proceed with caution. I think this is a bad decision and you will not accomplish what you think by doing it.

[bw0434]

Look bast and cruise is not all its craked up to be, at all. I was in my 40's with natty T levels in the mid too upper 700's after years of cycling and pct, I had the brilliant idea I would do this (blast and cruise). A self prescibed trt type cruise and a few blasts. Its not what you would think You dont get the results you might expect, Your response to the blasts is diminished, it just is, I cant say for sure why- there is no receptor down regulation, but the physiological response is diminished. All I accomplished was a sturggle to return to my pre blast T levels and my results were no better than if I did cycles with PPCT's. The cruise or trt is not what it is cracked up to be man. For those that truly need it trt is a god send but the cruise thing when you dont need it is not what you would think. This is my first hand experience If I got what I thought I was going to, Id be all for it, but it just didnt work that way man. This was my take in my 40's with trt in my future, no way would I ever recommend it to someone in their 20's (or any age really).
Proceed with caution. I think this is a bad decision and you will not accomplish what you think by doing it.

Thanks for your input bro appreciate it. My thing is I don't plan on being on for more than a year. I plannedplanned on cruising then blasting one more time then long solid pct because I have to get off due to athletic testing in my sport.

[5x10]

Look bast and cruise is not all its craked up to be, at all. I was in my 40's with natty T levels in the mid too upper 700's after years of cycling and pct, I had the brilliant idea I would do this (blast and cruise). A self prescibed trt type cruise and a few blasts. Its not what you would think You dont get the results you might expect, Your response to the blasts is diminished, it just is, I cant say for sure why- there is no receptor down regulation, but the physiological response is diminished. All I accomplished was a sturggle to return to my pre blast T levels and my results were no better than if I did cycles with PPCT's. The cruise or trt is not what it is cracked up to be man. For those that truly need it trt is a god send but the cruise thing when you dont need it is not what you would think. This is my first hand experience If I got what I thought I was going to, Id be all for it, but it just didnt work that way man. This was my take in my 40's with trt in my future, no way would I ever recommend it to someone in their 20's (or any age really).
Proceed with caution. I think this is a bad decision and you will not accomplish what you think by doing it.

I think both has its pros and cons

I've always grown up thinking you do a cycle, then get off
I've taken years off in between cycles because, I hated the roller coaster of coming off
The older I get, the less I want to deal with that roller coaster

There is no way someone in their 20s should consider staying on year round, like the guy above said, it doesn't work as well when you stay on for long periods of time, constant shots, blood work, etc, shit gets old after awhile

I'm having trouble even starting again because I don't feel 6 months is enough in between cycles, I don't want to get used to feeling on as I have seen many guys at the gym do
Some will even say they aren't on anything other than "just" 400 mgs of test a week
Just!? That's my ****ing cycle! It's crazy how perspective changes for guys that are on all the time

[bw0434]

I think both has its pros and cons

I've always grown up thinking you do a cycle, then get off
I've taken years off in between cycles because, I hated the roller coaster of coming off
The older I get, the less I want to deal with that roller coaster

There is no way someone in their 20s should consider staying on year round, like the guy above said, it doesn't work as well when you stay on for long periods of time, constant shots, blood work, etc, shit gets old after awhile

I'm having trouble even starting again because I don't feel 6 months is enough in between cycles, I don't want to get used to feeling on as I have seen many guys at the gym do
Some will even say they aren't on anything other than "just" 400 mgs of test a week
Just!? That's my ****ing cycle! It's crazy how perspective changes for guys that are on all the time

Yea that's exactly what someone at my gym said yesterday haha, telling me he's off and only on 500 mg of test haha. There's no way I could be on for years and years my plan was only to be one for 9 months or until I'm done my next blast because after that I won't be able to be on anything for at least 6 months to a year