Nolva during cycle??

[dazzle1]

I recently completed a cycle of Test E and Tren E. I ran nolva from the third week through my cycle.
Gains were really big for the first four weeks then tapered down.

Is there a reason people don't run nolva during the whole cycle?

[theblaze1987]

I'm on test c and p, I just had a thread similar to this bit was inquiring about AI's during cycle and nothing was mentioned about taking nolva during 3rd week of cycle. How many mg's did you take how often. What is the reason for taking it during cycle, I have some I purchased on accident and was told what I wanted for during cycle was liquidex from arr, and was going to run the nolva for pct. so now your saying you ran it 3rd week+ I get more confused the more I read.

[Temporary Accnt]

I recently completed a cycle of Test E and Tren E. I ran nolva from the third week through my cycle.
Gains were really big for the first four weeks then tapered down.

Is there a reason people don't run nolva during the whole cycle?

Nolvadex is a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) and is used primarily during PCT to reboot HPTA. Occasionally it will included on cycle for those who experience slight gynecomastia issues as Nolvadex is area specific and targets the receptors in breast tissue and prevents estrogen from attaching and causing gyno.

I'm on test c and p, I just had a thread similar to this bit was inquiring about AI's during cycle and nothing was mentioned about taking nolva during 3rd week of cycle. How many mg's did you take how often. What is the reason for taking it during cycle, I have some I purchased on accident and was told what I wanted for during cycle was liquidex from arr, and was going to run the nolva for pct. so now your saying you ran it 3rd week+ I get more confused the more I read.

Arimidex (Liquidex) is an AI (aromatase inhibitor) and used to control estrogen on cycle. Save your Nolvadex for PCT.

[theblaze1987]

Ok thank you, that is why I thought and planned.

[SG2009]

I did run mine during the whole cycle

[kelkel]

I recently completed a cycle of Test E and Tren E. I ran nolva from the third week through my cycle.
Gains were really big for the first four weeks then tapered down.

Is there a reason people don't run nolva during the whole cycle?

Exactly what T.A. said above. But to your point, it's normally not necessary on cycle if E is properly controlled via an AI. That said, some who are exceptionally gyno prone will run it on cycle in addition to their AI, not in place of.

[Jaydenn]

Yeah what above said, basically only run it on cycle if you think you're getting Gyno,
other than that keep it for PCT.

[dazzle1]

but what is the downside of running it the whole time?

[kelkel]

but what is the downside of running it the whole time?

Really not much at all. Actually good for lipids. Some will say it can/will reduce IGF-1 levels but the effect is minimal, you're on cycle. Still, why waste it if not needed. Remember, it's not an AI.

[dazzle1]

So why run an AI instead of just Nolva?

[lovbyts]

Because it does not lower your E2 per say, it for the prevention of gynocomastia.

From the Nolvoadex profile page.
Nolvadex Side Effects

Unfortunately, Nolvadex isn't perfect. Anecdotally, it has been linked to reduced gains in some bodybuilders. This isn't due, as previously thought, to its reducing estrogen levels (which it doesn't), but rather to its ability to possibly reduce IGF (Insulin-like-Growth-Factor) levels, which are important for muscle growth.

[branvan]

Because it does not lower your E2 per say, it for the prevention of gynocomastia.

From the Nolvoadex profile page.
Nolvadex Side Effects

Unfortunately, Nolvadex isn't perfect. Anecdotally, it has been linked to reduced gains in some bodybuilders. This isn't due, as previously thought, to its reducing estrogen levels (which it doesn't), but rather to its ability to possibly reduce IGF levels, which are important for muscle growth.

This. I remember reading this is why a drug like nolva isnt preferred from the get go because studies have shown it somewhat limits growing potential. An AI like arimidex would be better.

[kelkel]

So why run an AI instead of just Nolva?

Because the side effects of high estrogen can be very damaging. Think bad for lipids, stroke / blood clotting issues, libido, etc.

[Juced_porkchop]

I recently completed a cycle of Test E and Tren E. I ran nolva from the third week through my cycle.
Gains were really big for the first four weeks then tapered down.

Is there a reason people don't run nolva during the whole cycle?

because it doesnt lower estrogen or control anything other than block breast glands.......

do more researcha nd use an AI next time.

[khaled_mgsx]

read sticky threads you will find them helpful.

[dazzle1]

Which is the best AI to run IYHO?

[jimmyinkedup]

Which is the best AI to run IYHO?

Both arimidex and exemestane are excellent choices. I ran dex for years and switched to stane a couple years ago. I had some trobule dialing my stane dose in but once I did I like it. Honestly you would be hard pressed to go wrong with either, the key is dosing whichever one you choose properly, using blood work to get dose properly set.