hCG and test levels

[Jedi1337]

So hCG stimulates the testicles to produce test. What id really like to know is, how much test?

Are there any research articles out there which have looked at this kind of thing?

I understand there will be individual differences in the response to hCG, but maybe there is a range... e.g. for y ml of hCG your body is likely to produce 50 - 60 mg of test (totally random example there).

[Docd187123]

None that I'm aware of....

[michael30]

Im guessing you want to try and take just hcg alone?

[Jedi1337]

nope. Im just interested in the numbers really...

[michael30]

nope. Im just interested in the numbers really...

Lol ok good. Was hoping that was your answer. I have never seen anything papers on this.

[Jedi1337]

Rich Pana 1500mg p/w equiv to 5000 iu every other day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkZcuPIIvjM

He sounds like a drug addict TBH

[Jedi1337]

look at the state of him lol

[Temporary Accnt]

Lol ok good. Was hoping that was your answer. I have never seen anything papers on this.

Youre not looking hard enough

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/1.../jcem-49-2-278

[Jedi1337]

Youre not looking hard enough

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/1.../jcem-49-2-278

brill. Thanks!

[5x10]

Youre not looking hard enough

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/1.../jcem-49-2-278

Uughhhh, this certainly doesn't sound good considering most protocols call for a 500iu injection, every 3-4 days

These results suggest that in man, as in other species, hCG might induce a testicular steroidogenic desensitization. Moreover, our data raise question of the rational of daily hCG injection as used in the current protocols investigating human testicular function.

Hopefully the reason for the desensitization was due to the large amount of hcg used , 6000iu

[RangerDanger830]

HCG is suppressive even at smaller doses. With enough suppression you will become desensitized even if using much less than 6000iu. I imagine 6000iu a week would be no different than 1000iu a week since either way your natural LH and FSH production will be halted all the same.

I was going to bash on the spelling and grammar in the article but I suppose they aren't native English speakers. Normally that would be a big red flag on a study.

[Khazima]

Rich Pana 1500mg p/w equiv to 5000 iu every other day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkZcuPIIvjM

He sounds like a drug addict TBH

I can't believe so many people believes the shit he talks, plenty of people in the comment section are gonna go ahead and take 5000iu hcg EOD now..

[Jedi1337]

HCG is suppressive even at smaller doses. With enough suppression you will become desensitized even if using much less than 6000iu. I imagine 6000iu a week would be no different than 1000iu a week since either way your natural LH and FSH production will be halted all the same.

I was going to bash on the spelling and grammar in the article but I suppose they aren't native English speakers. Normally that would be a big red flag on a study.

you may like to review the use of acronyms in this scientific article! Structural and electronic properties of chiral single-wall copper nanotubes - Springer

[Jedi1337]

I can't believe so many people believes the shit he talks, plenty of people in the comment section are gonna go ahead and take 5000iu hcg EOD now..

The man is a drug addict. Steroids "work" for him in the way that he uses (abuses) them because the only measurement he uses is his size. IMO - for most of us here - we also value out health, and so our measurement of AAS success would be to use them whilst remaining fit and healthy.

Look at his skin and hair. I think hes only 43!

[lovbyts]

He must have balls like a 10yr old if he believes that HCG is only for signaling the testicles to make testosterone. He needs to stop using his brain so much and do more reading so he will know what HCG really does, not just guessing.

[RangerDanger830]

you may like to review the use of acronyms in this scientific article! Structural and electronic properties of chiral single-wall copper nanotubes - Springer

Is this real? Is this a thing? I'm on my phone and only half the screen will load, still plenty enough to get a chuckle.

[RewardingLabor]

Looking at the video:
Can someone with actual experience speak to his point about using hCG in combination with testosterone being a mix of signals. The top comment is about this. I could say either thing and it would sound logically correct (mixing signals will mess with the body vs the top comment that test doesn't signal the balls to turn off, just doesn't tell them to turn on)

What happens in reality when I mix hCG and Test and how quickly will I need to up my dose of either?

[kelkel]

There's no mix of signals. You're simply mimicking your endogenous LH production which is shut down to to exogenous AAS. And test does in fact signal your "balls to turn off" via suppression of your HPTA. HCG should be used in lower to moderate doses. How much test you use is up to you.

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/10.1210/jc.2004-0802

[Jedi1337]

Is this real? Is this a thing? I'm on my phone and only half the screen will load, still plenty enough to get a chuckle.

yes its very real. Copper (Cu) Nanotubes (NTs) are real!

[Bonaparte]

I've read stuff by leading HRT docs say that 750 IU per week most closely mimics natural gonadotropin production. Seems about right.

[Jedi1337]

I've read stuff by leading HRT docs say that 750 IU per week most closely replaces natural gonadotropin production. Seems about right.

so 1 mg endogenous test per 15 iu of hCG?

5000iu = 333mg. Does make sense...

[Temporary Accnt]

so 1 mg endogenous test per 15 iu of hCG?

5000iu = 333mg. Does make sense...

I think you may have misunderstood Bonaoparte's comment, or at least attempted to rationalize it using a formula. There is no formula, per se, when determining the amount of hCG that is effective for you. This is an individual need and varies with each male subject. Some men are able to use 250iu twice per week, and others require three times per week. And still others require little to none, this is very rare however.