Dbol vs superdrol

[pivpool]

Hi,
I wanted only know for experiences what is for You better for gain mass in a 6/8w only cyrcle? Dosage?

[derekkpapa1]

6/8 week bulk mass cycle?
why so short.

[uhit]

Just go hardcore and use anadrol.
All orals are pretty much toxic to the liver so might as well use the one which will give optimal results.

Also... I hope you are using test as a base... otherwise good luck satisfying women

[pivpool]

It' a mass cyrcle with test en. 500mg/w for 16w,
I wanted use a oral as kickstart!
100mg/d Anadrol also is the best? For 6 w or more?

[derekkpapa1]

Got you- orals especially anadrol should be only 4 weeks unless you want a failing liver.
I also prefer anadrol.

[pivpool]

Perfect thanks!!!

[derekkpapa1]

100 mg also is excessive
I run it at 50mg split morning and afternoon

[qscgugcsq]

Got you- orals especially anadrol should be only 4 weeks unless you want a failing liver.
I also prefer anadrol.

On what are you basing yourself to say that...

Cause the studies suggest that even 150mg daily cause slightly elevated liver enzyme for a third of the participant.

As long as there is no alcohol involve anadrol isnt very liver toxic...

100mg is a strong dose agreed but it wont kill the liver...

[< <Samson> >]

Fvck orals - bunk gains with crap sides

[derekkpapa1]

Copy and pasted study have a few more I will post I also havery blood work I will post but to each there own.
I live this lifestyle not only to look health but to be health and I draw the line at some point.

These Aids patients were treated with 100 or 150mg of Anadrol for 16 weeks!!!
BACKGROUND: Despite highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART), chronic involuntary weight loss still remains a serious problem in the care of HIV patients due to various alterations in energy metabolism and endocrine regulation. Previous studies in HIV-positive men undergoing androgen replacement therapy or treatment with recombinant growth hormone (rGH) have shown partial restoration of lean body mass (LBM), but these treatments have largely not been sufficiently studied in eugonadal individuals. METHOD: A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial of 89 HIV-positive eugonadal women and men with wasting assigned to the anabolic steroid oxymetholone (50 mg bid or tid) or placebo for 16 weeks was performed. Body weight, bioimpedance measurements, quality of life parameters, and appetite were analyzed. RESULTS: Oxymetholone led to a significant weight gain of 3.0 +/- 0.5 and 3.5 +/- 0.7 kg in the tid and bid groups, respectively (p <.05 for each treatment versus placebo), while individuals in the placebo group gained an average of 1.0 +/- 0.7 kg. Body cell mass (BCM) increased in the oxymetholone bid group (3.8 +/- 0.4 kg; p <.0001) and in the oxymetholone tid group (2.1 +/- 0.6 kg; p <.005). Significant improvements were noted in appetite and food intake, increased wellbeing, and reduced weakness by self-examination. The most important adverse event was liver-associated toxicity. Overall, 43% of patients in the tid group, 25% of patients in the bid oxymetholone group, and 8% in the placebo group had a greater than 5 times baseline increase for ALT, AST, or gamma GT, while other adverse events were not increased over placebo. CONCLUSION: Oxymetholone can be considered an effective anabolic steroid in eugonadal male and female patients with AIDS-associated wasting. The bid (100 mg/day) regimen appeared to be equally effective to the tid (150 mg/day) regimen in terms of weight gain, LBM, and BCM and was associated with less liver toxicity.


This woman took 60mg of Anadrol for 3 years !!!!! I bet she didn't take Tyler's, Milk thistle or alpha lipoic acid:
We report herein the case of a 35-year-old woman with aplastic anemia who developed hepatocellular carcinoma after long-term therapy with oxymetholone. She was treated with 60 mg/day of oxymetholone for 3 years (total dose 64.8 g). Alpha-fetoprotein, hepatitis B surface antigen, and hepatitis C antibody were all negative, but serum titers of carcinoembryonic antigen and carbohydrate antigen were elevated. Lateral segmentectomy of the liver was performed. The histopathological findings were compatible with those of multiple hepatocellular carcinoma without liver cirrhosis. Three years since the operation, the patient is doing well and no signs of tumor recurrence have been detected. According to our review of Japanese cases of hepatocellular carcinoma associated with anabolic steroid therapy, in all instances the tumors developed after long-term administration of anabolic steroids for hematologic diseases. In patients under long-term anabolic steroid therapy, routine screening of the liver by ultrasonography and computed tomography should be performed to detect liver tumors in the early stages.

[derekkpapa1]

Is it really worth pushing the envelope taking a extra risk?

[< <Samson> >]

Srsly between all the mass I have added, I would say 2-4 Lbs. Is from orals

This came at a cost of heart burn, lethargy & who knows what kind of internal damage.

[pivpool]

Best Anadrol Labs?

[< <Samson> >]

Best Anadrol Labs?

dRol isn't very high end so it's not too likely to be faked

I ran Balkan Anapolon - shit was strong as fvck

[djs2224]

I've really just got strength from orals not much of any size
On anadrol I loose weight cause I loose appetite completely

[< <Samson> >]

Also ran GP sDrol - that shit was even stronger than the dRol

But, you can taste in your mouth that your body is building toxins - even on a ton of liver support pills

[uhit]

Also ran GP sDrol - that shit was even stronger than the dRol

But, you can taste in your mouth that your body is building toxins - even on a ton of liver support pills

That's grim...

I guess drink a shit ton of water while your on orals is the way to go

[< <Samson> >]

That's grim... I guess drink a shit ton of water while your on orals is the way to go

I always drink a gallon+ & try my best not to get liqured up

[pivpool]

I ve find good rewiews for noble Labs Oxy, it's good?

[derekkpapa1]

You going to run test?
what's your full plan?

[songdog]

Srsly between all the mass I have added, I would say 2-4 Lbs. Is from orals

This came at a cost of heart burn, lethargy & who knows what kind of internal damage.

Nothing in life is free.There is a price to pay for everything we do.So the real question is(How bad do you want it)

[pivpool]

1-16 week 750mg/w test en.
1-4 week 100mg/dAnadrol
6-9 week 250 mgs/d oral tren
11-15 week 100mg/d Anadrol
17-18 week Nolvadex
1-20 week Liv52

[4linked]

Oral tren is micro grams you won't have too much liver left

[Juced_porkchop]

It' a mass cyrcle with test en. 500mg/w for 16w,
I wanted use a oral as kickstart!
100mg/d Anadrol also is the best? For 6 w or more?

I would rec 30-60mg dbol ed. screw anadrol. dbol atleast makes you feel good on top of the gains. drol just makes me feel crappy, lifes too short to feel crappy, even fore gains ( shallow in my op) id go dbol over superdrol, but superdrol over anadrol IMO

[pivpool]

Dbol of Pharmacom lab is good?

[derekkpapa1]

1-16 week 750mg/w test en.
1-4 week 100mg/dAnadrol
6-9 week 250 mgs/d oral tren
11-15 week 100mg/d Anadrol
17-18 week Nolvadex
1-20 week Liv52

Liv52 and a prayer won't help you liver. Good luck your stubborn.

[< <Samson> >]

How bad do you want it

Nah, the question is:Is it worth the damage?

I rather bump my doses of whatever injectable for the cycle duration instead of doing a 30 dayer in the beginning of a cycle.


Var is the only other oral steroid I would like to use/try. But, with some much fake shit & the prices being nothing short of insane. I'll stick to injectables just fine.



Oh nice cycle op - What do you expect from this cycle? - like really


It's the journey not the destination.


I will damn near guarantee you that you will not be able to handle the sides by 5..

[Ashop]

Hi,
I wanted only know for experiences what is for You better for gain mass in a 6/8w only cyrcle? Dosage?

I like Superdrol but most find it very harsh.
MOST people love DBOL

[reporich]

Id love to hear some Superdrol experiences....

[< <Samson> >]

Id love to hear some Superdrol experiences....

I ran it, it gives a solid pump

But, the sides are vicious - heart burn is so intense and there's always bitter taste present while taking them


I made it like 22 days & had to stop.

[reporich]

How much were you taking?