!Need help with best AI and best organ support for my FIRST cycle!

[ShortStack89]

150mg Test E twice a week Wednesday and Sunday
200mg Deca Durabolin twice a week Wednesday and Sunday
test only first 2 weeks and then the addition of deca for a total of 8 weeks.
Nolvadex Unknown MG 10 days after last injection.
Thinking about choosing chlomid for AI but open for suggestions

NOTE: I have bought and intend to use this cycle no matter what someone advises so please unless you think I'm going to shit blood and die at 25 please just help me figure out an AI and some vital organ support.

[derekkpapa1]

Whats your full stats.
I haveno problem helping but you need to read every sticky on questions and answers main page because what you stated up there makes no sense?
read everything then repost a proposed cycle- full proposal and we can work it from there.
you need to show you at least put a little effort in researching first.

[ScotchGuard02]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html this link explains the first cycle waaay better than I could.

[ShortStack89]

I'm not sure if I typed something incorrect. I was just wanting to list what I've got coming in the mail to have someone . I've made the choices all based on the type of gains Im wanting. I also have not listed the organ supports just because I want an unbiased opinion from a vet user.
I am 25
5'8
180 lbs 5%bf
200 lbs10-12%bf

Let me know if you need more info for AI and liver/heart support

[derekkpapa1]

Deca for 8 weeks is a joke and should be ran for minimal of 10 (prefer 12) weeks
test ran 2 weeks longer than deca because deca takes longer to clear in your system for pct

I suggest you read link scott provided give u better basic understanding.

Clomid is for pct along with nolva
arimidex is for an AI say @ .5 eod
Hcg should also be used

[derekkpapa1]

Repost
sorry
I made a mistake
it happens

[OdinsOtherSon]

Deca for 8 weeks is a joke and should be ran for minimal of 10 (prefer 12) weeks
test ran 2 weeks longer than deca because deca takes longer to clear in your system for pct

I suggest you read link scott provided give u better basic understanding.

Clomid is for pct along with nolva
arimidex is for an AI say @ .5 eod
Hcg should also be used

^^This. OP, you have the test/deca protocol ass backwards. I'll echo what was suggested...read the link provided by Scotch. It's pretty obvious you need to educate yourself to a considerably higher level regarding aas usage before you jump off into this horror story you've proposed...otherwise, you'll eventually end up back here begging for help to straighten your @$$ out. My $0.02

[ShortStack89]

I don't want to give any source info from my friend but I watched him do the same cycle I listed and has had great recovery and great gains. I just used to use alcohol ALOT and thought maybe my ai and protection would differ. I apologize for auto correct saying chlomid, I meant liquid-chlomi.

[derekkpapa1]

The only 100% true way to tell the correct amount of AI (arimidex ect) a person may need is blood work.
when I put out there arimidex .5mg eod that's what I may use the next guy could get away with a lot less.

[nkct]

I don't understand why every person planning their first cycle comes on here and tries to reinvent the wheel. The ideal first cycle is spoon fed to you in the above link. You say you saw one friend do it that way and you follow suit, meanwhile you have, collectively, hundreds of years of experience guiding you in the proper direction and you ignore it. Don't use Clomid for an AI because it is not an AI; it's a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator). If you want an AI use Arimidex at 0.25mg EOD, but if you read the above link you would already know that.
Also if you PREVIOUSLY abused alcohol but have stopped, you liver enzymes have likely recovered completely with no lasting damage (It typically take 25-30 years of heavy drinking to approach levels of liver fibrosis i.e. cirrhosis that would change your baseline liver enzyme levels). This is assuming of course that you have been sober.

[Saluki]

I'm a newb here, but even I know this. And the arrogance is laughable.

[ShortStack89]

Again aside from me already announcing that I only would like a reference for the ai and proper support from unbiased users, I didn't need any other advice on what I wanted to cycle with. I have watched my friend and supplier use this cycle I listed for 2 years now off and on and he's doing great. Except now this month he's added tren ace in substitute of the deca. I will be going with the ai listed from derrekkpappa1 and standard supports. Also will not be using this forum as I was advised most of you are only here to troll or poke fun
I've seen the proof of this poor man's cycle and I'm for it and accept the risks of whatever I have chosen to take. Thank you for the suggestion derrekkpappa1

[ShortStack89]

Again aside from me already announcing that I only would like a reference for the ai and proper support from unbiased users, I didn't need any other advice on what I wanted to cycle with. I have watched my friend and supplier use this cycle I listed for 2 years now off and on and he's doing great. Except now this month he's added tren ace in substitute of the deca. I will be going with the ai listed from derrekkpappa1 and standard supports. Also will not be using this forum as I was advised most of you are only here to troll or poke fun
I've seen the proof of this poor man's cycle and I'm for it and accept the risks of whatever I have chosen to take. Thank you for the suggestion derrekkpappa1

[nkct]

I'm not sure what makes this a "poor man's" cycle when you can skip the deca and buy another 1-2 bottles of test for the same price... you know, and do it correctly.
If you are going to go ahead and do it your way, please make sure to read the thread about doing your first cycle and have the appropriate ancillaries. At least arimidex and preferably with hcg while on, then nolva and clomid for PCT.
Best of luck.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Again aside from me already announcing that I only would like a reference for the ai and proper support from unbiased users, I didn't need any other advice on what I wanted to cycle with. I have watched my friend and supplier use this cycle I listed for 2 years now off and on and he's doing great. Except now this month he's added tren ace in substitute of the deca. I will be going with the ai listed from derrekkpappa1 and standard supports. Also will not be using this forum as I was advised most of you are only here to troll or poke fun
I've seen the proof of this poor man's cycle and I'm for it and accept the risks of whatever I have chosen to take. Thank you for the suggestion derrekkpappa1

But you DO need advice on HOW to run it...as I posted above. And if you are this desperate for advice on something as simple as AI and support usage OR you're too lazy to do the research yourself, as it is all laid out in the stickies of the various sub forums, I'd wager YOU are the troll.