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    First cycle, need to know how much sustanon 250

    Hello, i have recently started my first cycle, and wanted to get some advice, i plan on taking sustanon 250 (organon) for 10 weeks injecting every monday and thursday for a total of 500 mg weekly, 0.5mg arimidex eod until start of pct (3 weeks after last injection), 250ui hcg shot twice per week starting week 2. My pct is nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50. My diet is 40% protein, 40% fats, 20% carbs (250g protein per day). My current stats are 92 kg, 14% bf, 5ft10.

    Recently i found out that it is better to inject sust m w f and i wanted t know if i can go up to 750 mg per week safely.
    thanks in advance.

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    Hey buddy, welcome!

    1. How old are you?
    2. What are your goals?
    3. Why do you want to do a cycle?
    4. What do you hope to achieve with this 10 week cycle?
    5. Do you plan on being unnatural for the rest of your life, or just doing one or a few cycles?
    6. Do you know the risks of manipulating your hormones under the age of 23-24 years old?
    7. Do you know the risks of manipulating your hormones at any age?
    8. How long have you been training?
    9. What is your training like?
    10. Overall, you have the right idea of what the cycle should consist of.
    11. What is your proposed timing of HCG injections? Also, I'm an advocate of using 500 iu's twice a week instead of 250 as it is said that you are better off getting enough than not enough.
    12. Have you read any of the stickies? If not, I highly recommend you do so; including the one titled "Planning and executing your first cycle".
    13. Currently, what week of injections are you in?
    14. Unless you plan on becoming a pro powerlifter or bodybuilder and you have been training naturally at least 1 year with good strength and conditioning, myself and the rest of the members here will highly recommend you DO NOT manipulate your hormones at that current premature state and that you start your PCT IMMEDIATELY.
    15. Have you done any blood work/labs getting a baseline of what your lipids, kidney and liver function, basic metabolic panel and full hormone panel looks like? You will also need labs in the middle of your cycle somewhere around the 4-6 week mark to check your estradiol, red blood cell count, and testosterone levels to make adjustments if necessary. You will then need more labs after your PCT to make sure you have recovered properly.
    16. IF you are ok to "cycle", your first cycle should not be any more than 500 mgs of testosterone. It is not necessary and you might not be able to manage your side effects properly. So no, 750 mgs a week is not ok. You will make plenty of gains on 500 mgs a week alone especially for your first cycle. So relax and know that if your goals are bodybuilding/powerlifting, it's not a sprint, it's a marathon.
    17. It sounds like you have made a mistake by starting this and you have a lot of reading to do. I hope you make the right decisions for long term health.

    Good luck!

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    Sorry, would it be optimal to inject your sust MWF instead of Mon thurs? probably. Would you feel better? maybe. Is it necessary? No.

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    sustenon everyother day I know a couple people on here back me up with that because of prop I don't see why everyone doesn't strive for the most stable blood levels.

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    OP, you're 19. Stop the cycle asap and wait 5-6 years. Read up, there are many many reasons why you don't want to mess with aas right now. People here aren't just trying to be jerks when they tell you to stay off because you're too young, its in your best interest.

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    1. i am 19.
    2. I would like to increase my strength, endurance and put on about 15 to 20 lb of lean mass.
    3. I want to cycle to get bigger and at 205lb its getting harder to put on mass. I would like to be at 230 lb at 8 % bf. and that is not going to happen natty.
    4. Reduce bf and put on 15 to 20lb of lean mass.
    5. I plan on being on and off steroids and peptides the rest of my life, my only concern is being able to have kids.
    6. yes i am well aware of the risks and as long as i am able to have kids i have no prob with the risks, i have even considered freezing sperm but it seems nearly impossible to become infertile with one cycle.
    7. yes i know the risks
    8. i have been training with a personal trainer since i was 11, took a year off at 15, and have been training consitently for the last three years.
    9. i am currently doing a 4 day split monday: chest, tricep, shoulders, and traps. tuesday; back biceps and legs. then i repeat these workouts on thursday and friday. on my off days i do hiit training and abs.
    11. i plan on dosing my hcg with my test.
    12. i have read every sticky
    13. i have only had my first injection
    14. maybe not a pro but i plan on lifting and bodybuilding the rest of my life
    15. yes i have had my bloods done twice, and checked by my endo. and will have bloods done through out cycle
    16. also was thinking of injecting every three days 250 mg, so it would be about 625 per week, to make hormone levels more stable and take advantage of the short esters. do u think that would be ok?
    thank you for your reply.
    Last edited by alejandro1995; 10-29-2014 at 10:45 AM.

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    No matter how much you think you know, the risks aren't worth it at your age. You might be just fine after one cycle, or...your still developing hpta system could be permanently damaged. Please take the advice offered, its not worth it.

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    I am aware that i may indeed permanently damage my hpta, but as long as i have a partial recovery and able to have kids i have no problem with damaging my hpta, also i have 2 doctors that will be controling my cycle.

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    750 is to much. Just do the math and break down 500 into thirds.

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    Ok, will do 170mg m w f.

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    You don't want to pin hcg the same day as your test. So just do it on your off days and keep it consistent.

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