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    First cycle testE

    I was wondering if a 10wk cycle of test E running only 125 twice a week will need hcg towards week 8?

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    Why the low dose,TRT?

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    It would probably still be a good idea to run an ai. Even on trt of 80mg a week its recommended in most cases if you want to help your hpta recover quicker because even at a low dose you will be shut down.

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    Only want the low dose I'm only looking for a little bit of "help" being able to sustain my workout routine a little bit of fat burn. I am 32 yrs old. 6'1" and weigh 194. Bf is at 16%. I have a solid base and just want that little extra boost. Not much.

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    Shutting yourself down for 250mg per week is just plain silly in my honest opinion. Do you understand that after your cycle your natural testosterone levels could be lower for the rest of your life?

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    Yes. I know that for sure. Exactly why I want to do the proper pct. I have talked to plenty of people who have run the same for cycles shave gotten the goals they and I am looking for. The benefits and risks have been weighed and I just want to cover all my bases and do this right for what I want from it

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Shutting yourself down for 250mg per week is just plain silly in my honest opinion. Do you understand that after your cycle your natural testosterone levels could be lower for the rest of your life?
    Would like to see any studies/data on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Do you understand that after your cycle your natural testosterone levels could be lower for the rest of your life?
    Not looking to start a sh!tstorm but I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are about the % of this happening. Looking at starting my 1st cycle in Jan and this is one of my concerns.
    Sorry to hijack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverback64 View Post
    I was wondering if a 10wk cycle of test E running only 125 twice a week will need hcg towards week 8?
    No you don't need HCG.

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    Even at 250mg/week, you will want HCG @ 500IU X 2/weekly as you will shut yourself down. An AI is also recommended as you will have a high conversation rate of T to E outside of the acceptable range, so 0.25mg X 2 week of Adex should keep you in range.

    As for gains, you should see the desired results you seek as I've personally run low dose Test cycles, and have done very well with them.

    Don't forget your Clomid / Nolva for PCT as well, where you'll drop the HCG at this point.

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    One additional comment I'd like to mention is that I've always used Pharmaceutical Test (Pfizer). I mention pharma grade as it's guaranteed to give you the dosage the bottle states

    Now I'm not suggesting that UGL's under dose their gear, but what I am suggesting is that you have zero guarantee of the amount in that bottle unless you brew yourself / buy real pharma grade.

    I mention the above since I know a number of folks that have gotten good results on low dose pharma gear, whereas some of the UGL experiences low dose were a little questionable in comparison.

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