First injection complete

[dghartley]

So I've now completed my first injection,

Chose to inject into my thigh,

Pushed the needle in through the skin (no pain what so ever I was very surprised) pushed into deeper and started to push the test into me.

I could feel the test being injected into my muscle which was a strange sensation.

Had to stop halfway through because I was shaking like a little bitch.

But now it's all done in my leg. Feel a bit of a pain about 5 inches above the injection spot, not sure if I may of brushed a nerve.

Very happy with my first injection, just hoping that I did get it into a muscle and everything was actioned correctly (but I think I may just be a bit paranoid)

No more natty!

[derekkpapa1]

Relax --as you cycle goes along it will get easier.
you may get some pip tomorrow FYI.

[hawk14dl]

Tomorrow and or the day after. Nothing to worry about.

Be sure to massage the injection area. heat works too. I like to massage with the alcohol wipe immediately as soon as I pull the pin out.

[dghartley]

Relax --as you cycle goes along it will get easier. you may get some pip tomorrow FYI.

Cheers mate, my mate suggested not to sleep on the leg I injected into--is that valid information?

Tomorrow and or the day after. Nothing to worry about. Be sure to massage the injection area. heat works too. I like to massage with the alcohol wipe immediately as soon as I pull the pin out.

I did that actually, a few drops of blood came up on the wipe--but I've had more blood come out when I bite my tongue so I'm not concerned.

[HawaiiLifr]

You're too young to be using gear. 25 years is the solid ALL-CLEAR age. There's a very good chance your Endocrine system has not fully developed, and "introducing exogenous androgens during development can cause erratic behaviour of the HPTA later in life. This includes the inability to produce sufficient testosterone (LOW T), sterility and erectile dysfunction."

I find it pretty rich you're worried about a needle, instead of your manhood.

[dghartley]

You're too young to be using gear. 25 years is the solid ALL-CLEAR age. There's a very good chance your Endocrine system has not fully developed, and "introducing exogenous androgens during development can cause erratic behaviour of the HPTA later in life. This includes the inability to produce sufficient testosterone (LOW T), sterility and erectile dysfunction." I find it pretty rich you're worried about a needle, instead of your manhood.

I'm 6 foot 2, I weigh 208.6 pounds around 15% bf mark, I've been at the GYM for years. Chances are I have more body and facial hair then you, your dad and your mum put together. I know in my self that I'm fully developed, but thanks for the concern anyway chap

[HawaiiLifr]

I'm 6 foot 2, I weigh 208.6 pounds around 15% bf mark, I've been at the GYM for years. Chances are I have more body and facial hair then you, your dad and your mum put together. I know in my self that I'm fully developed, but thanks for the concern anyway chap

Lol. As if anything in your post is an indication your HPTA is fully developed. My concern is not for you. Darwin has already selected you. My post is for anyone else thinking about jumping the gun- the info is easy to find, and the science is clear.

[dghartley]

Lol. As if anything in your post is an indication your HPTA is fully developed. My concern is not for you. Darwin has already selected you. My post is for anyone else thinking about jumping the gun- the info is easy to find, and the science is clear.

Like I said I know in myself that I'm fine, I know me better than anyone.

[dghartley]

You're too young to be using gear. 25 years is the solid ALL-CLEAR age.

Just realised that my profile says I'm 21, infact I'm 23 I'm turning 24 in a couple of months. Unsure if you actually knew this--no idea why my profile says 21.

[kelkel]

Just realised that my profile says I'm 21, infact I'm 23 I'm turning 24 in a couple of months. Unsure if you actually knew this--no idea why my profile says 21.

Because when you joined two years ago you were 21. It doesn't auto-correct.

[dghartley]

Ahhh that makes sense. Thanks for that

[HawaiiLifr]

I know this isn't going to change your mind, but you've tried to give the impression that you're bursting with testosterone. Which begs the question, why are you supplementing with testosterone? Are you a professional athlete? No need to answer, just something to consider. Good luck.

[dghartley]

I know this isn't going to change your mind, but you've tried to give the impression that you're bursting with testosterone. Which begs the question, why are you supplementing with testosterone? Are you a professional athlete? No need to answer, just something to consider. Good luck.

I may be still producing test, but I was a very early bloomer, my test production has lowered in the past few years.

As far as professional athlete goes I got a injury when I was younger which has destroyed my chances of making pro.

As it stands I'm looking to become a body builder and entering shows 2017. Now naturally I have a good physique but it's nothing which is going to win awards.

Please don't get me wrong I can completely understand where you are coming from, but I'm ready to take the next step. I'm not stupid, I understand the risks.

Thank you for your input, as you say it won't change my mind.

Thanks I look forward to sharing my experience with the members of the forum.

[derekkpapa1]

What does your cycle look like?

[Khazima]

I may be still producing test, but I was a very early bloomer, my test production has lowered in the past few years.

As far as professional athlete goes I got a injury when I was younger which has destroyed my chances of making pro.

As it stands I'm looking to become a body builder and entering shows 2017. Now naturally I have a good physique but it's nothing which is going to win awards.

Please don't get me wrong I can completely understand where you are coming from, but I'm ready to take the next step. I'm not stupid, I understand the risks.

Thank you for your input, as you say it won't change my mind.

Thanks I look forward to sharing my experience with the members of the forum.

I'd be interested to follow. Please make a thread in the correct section as this is a Q&A not a log or results section.

[dghartley]

What does your cycle look like?

So my first cycle consists of Bayer Testoviron, 250mg x2 a week for 10 weeks.

The Testoviron contains Test P and Test E so both a long and short ester.

I have Anastrozole to take throughout my cycle,

My PCT is Clomid and Tamoxifen.

I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.

My next cycle will consist of the same but I'm going to throw in HCG and see the benefits. I will use this during my cycle.

I'm debating wether or not to stack another in my second cycle, I may or may not just because I want to monitor how my body reacts with the HCG and the benefits of usages.

I know there is a thread in regards to the importance of HCG in cycle, but I would rather compare and first hand experience it for myself.

[davidtheman100]

So my first cycle consists of Bayer Testoviron, 250mg x2 a week for 10 weeks.

The Testoviron contains Test P and Test E so both a long and short ester.

I have Anastrozole to take throughout my cycle,



My PCT is Clomid and Tamoxifen.

I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.

My next cycle will consist of the same but I'm going to throw in HCG and see the benefits. I will use this during my cycle.


I'm debating wether or not to stack another in my second cycle, I may or may not just because I want to monitor how my body reacts with the HCG and the benefits of usages.

I know there is a thread in regards to the importance of HCG in cycle, but I would rather compare and first hand experience it for myself.

HCG can only help on-cycle. It increases the chances of a full recovery and makes your overall experience on cycle a bit better by ensuring that you have 1 less thing to worry about. I was really against using HCG for my first cycle as i've read on many pages, forums, etc. that say you don't need it and they don't understand how it got introduced into bodybuilding circles for on-cycle support. There were answers swaying me every which-way.

I put my trust into the vets on here who have been cycling since i was a baby, and know their stuff, who suggested i use
HCG on cycle. I used it for all 3 of my cycles and will continue to do so. I don't exactly know what standing i would be in without taking it, but i don't need to

[dghartley]

HCG can only help on-cycle. It increases the chances of a full recover and makes your overall experience on cycle a bit better by ensuring that you have 1 less thing to worry about. I was really against using HCG for my first cycle as i've read on many pages, forums, etc. that say you don't need it and they don't understand how it got introduced into bodybuilding circles for on-cycle support. There were answers swaying me every which-way. I put my trust into the vets on here who have been cycling since i was a baby, and know their stuff, who suggested i use HCG on cycle. I used it for all 3 of my cycles and will continue to do so. I don't exactly know what standing i would be in without taking it, but i don't need to

Don't get me wrong I will be using HCG, but I'm more of a hands on kind of guy.

I value the instructions of the vets, they know what they're on about that's for sure.

From the sounds of it HCG is very beneficial but I would really like to see first hand with and without. When I first started at the GYM I was told what exercise did what muscle etc, but I spent weeks just doing 1 exercise a day, waking up in the morning and figuring out what muscle ached and where it was based in my body so I could get a better understand.

[davidtheman100]

Don't get me wrong I will be using HCG, but I'm more of a hands on kind of guy.

I value the instructions of the vets, they know what they're on about that's for sure.

From the sounds of it HCG is very beneficial but I would really like to see first hand with and without. When I first started at the GYM I was told what exercise did what muscle etc, but I spent weeks just doing 1 exercise a day, waking up in the
morning and figuring out what muscle ached and where it was based in my body so I could get a better understand.

I understand your point of view, as i'm the same type of person. But there is a fine line between trial and error with training styles, and trial and error with highly recommended/must-have on cycle support. When you start cycling you lose some innocence in a sense. If you fvck yourself up permanently, you cannot just change it up and make things better as you could if you weren't getting results from one exercise and decided to do the other. Catch my drift?

Either way though, i hope your cycle goes well and that you make some gains and come out healthy/recover fine.

[dghartley]

I understand your point of view, as i'm the same type of person. But there is a fine line between trial and error with training styles, and trial and error with highly recommended/must-have on cycle support. When you start cycling you lose some innocence in a sense. If you fvck yourself up permanently, you cannot just change it up and make things better as you could if you weren't getting results from one exercise and decided to do the other. Catch my drift? Either way though, i hope your cycle goes well and that you make some gains and come out healthy/recover fine.

Yeah I understand completely buddy,

But pro's have been cycling years without HCG, once again though thanks for the input and HCG I'll be added to my next cycle.

Thanks bro.

[derekkpapa1]

Pro's were cycling without it back in the day because they didn't know better but we do

[dghartley]

Pro's were cycling without it back in the day because they didn't know better but we do

Good shout.

[kelkel]

I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.

You chose poorly. Read Austinites sticky if you haven't. I'll paraphrase a line of his: "you don't put your seat belt on after the accident" do you?

Don't get me wrong I will be using HCG, but I'm more of a hands on kind of guy.

You will soon be a "hands on small nuts" kind of guy. Listen to the guys above. You're getting good advice.

[HawaiiLifr]

So my first cycle consists of Bayer Testoviron, 250mg x2 a week for 10 weeks.

The Testoviron contains Test P and Test E so both a long and short ester.

I have Anastrozole to take throughout my cycle,

My PCT is Clomid and Tamoxifen.

I actually chose not to use HCG, I know some people are going to burn me for this but as it's my first cycle I thought against using it just to see how many body reacts during and after the cycle.

My next cycle will consist of the same but I'm going to throw in HCG and see the benefits. I will use this during my cycle.

I'm debating wether or not to stack another in my second cycle, I may or may not just because I want to monitor how my body reacts with the HCG and the benefits of usages.

I know there is a thread in regards to the importance of HCG in cycle, but I would rather compare and first hand experience it for myself.

If that's an ester blend you'll want to inject EOD.