High Estrogen months after cycle, gyno symptoms too, advice please!

[ibinlyrical]

I just got some bloodwork done, 2 months after I finished PCT, my natural levels were Testosterone : 394 and Estrogen : 24 now after all this time my Test is : 373 and my Estrogen : 37. This seems a little unbalanced, when I was on cycle my Test was : 2776 and Est was : 29

My cycle was,

10 wks Deca at 400 then switched to 600 per friends advice,
14 wks Test-e 250 then switched to 375 per friends advice,
5 wks HCG (last 5 weeks 1000ius/wk)
6 wks Nolva/Clomid
.5 Adex e4d except for 10 days before PCT started
I ran PCT on wk 16 in this order,
Clomid 100/50/50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20/20/20

I'm having some gyno symptoms, and have developed a mass behind each nipple that's sore. I've had some hair loss, significant thinning. My libidos on point though. Dr says I'm completely in normal range but I can't deny that my Estro is much higher than it was, what can I do to resolve this problem and reverse the gyno as well?

Casual Adex or maybe some Letro? Any advice would be a life saver! Thank you!

Also would Aromasin be more effective?

[against_grain]

It appears, that we can summarize your situation as Post-PCT Estrogen rebound. You are On-point with getting blood work, thanks that was the proper thing to do.



I personally used letro for 4 weeks at 2.5mg/day following the "Letro for Gyno reversal protocol" with excellent results. I did not have any actual lumps formed, but by good results I mean that while on letro I felt fine, no symptoms from the letro. Aside from the letro protocol you may need to consider a surgical consult if you have acutal gyno tissue/lumps.

[ibinlyrical]

Thank you very much for the quick response, it's appreciated. My gyno isn't very bad, probably a marble on each side. Not noticeable I wouldn't think, I'm not completely shredded so the verdict is out but my doctor says it's not bad enough for health care to cover it. The hair thinning I attributed to my body stabilizing after HCG, and thought of it as "Telogen Effluvium" but now I think it might be because of the Estro.
The doctor said there wasn't any breast tissue but confirmed the Existance of a lump. So I know it is atleast that.

I can get an Adex prescription but everything else would be "underground". I know letro would be hard on my system and since I won't be running anything other than to boost test, how should I take it? Is there an effective way to lower my estrogen this late in the game? I wanna get this resolved and back on my way! Thanks in advance!

[ibinlyrical]

I would also be interested in just some advice on how to lower and normalize my estrogen even. This late into it! Thanks

[against_grain]

Most of the ancillary drugs used are not restricted/illegal so they are available as "research chemicals labelled not for human consumption". There are many reputable sources.

Im interested to know more about your stats, age, weight, body fat%, was this your first cycle or have you been doing AAS for years?

Also your doctor seems very helpful, how much information did you give him about your cycle?

[Buster Brown]

You could try running a cycle of ralox ..... Probably your best bet.

[ibinlyrical]

Thanks for the input! This was indeed my first cycle, I hopped on due to the advice of a friend of mine because I was prepping for my 2nd ACL repair and wanted to give myself the best chance of recovery. I was admittedly not educated enough when I started and am constantly trying to learn on the fly.

I'm at this very moment, 24, 213lbs, 6'0 and body fat is probably around 20%. Keep in mind I just had a bone graph so I've been lieing around for a month and a half. It's been stressful. I was up to 227 on the cycle, and was benching 275. I'm not quite sure where I am now.

He has been reasonably helpful for sure, I told him what I took and my reasons for taking it. Gyno has been a huge concern for me. I just wanna get my Estro back to a healthy level, doc says it's fine but I'd like to get it back to normal for me. I won't be doing anymore cycles after this either.

[ibinlyrical]

You could try running a cycle of ralox ..... Probably your best bet.

What would a cycle of that consist of? Would it shut me down again? Kill libido? Hair loss? Thank you!

[Buster Brown]

What would a cycle of that consist of? Would it shut me down again? Kill libido? Hair loss? Thank you!

Ralox is a SERM. You could run it at 60 mgs a day until symptoms subside. It will not shut you down as it isn't an AAS. Hairloss is hereditary and AAS use will only accelerate that. Look into the PCT section in the stickies..... There will be more info on raloxifene .

[ibinlyrical]

I will look into that right away, I'm weary about putting more into my body since everything is so messed up right now. I don't have any MPB in my family, it's like my hair fell out all over my head at once, just brutally. No hairline recession. I would like to lower my Estrogen though, first priority! Whatever that takes. The problem is, the only place I know where to get anything only has Nolva/Clomid. Which is underground, and I don't even know how well it worked the first time I took it.

I heard today that "Stinging Nettle" was a really reliable way to lower estrogen, and I just wanna normalize and stay there. I'm not getting ready to do another cycle down the road, just a one time deal.

[ibinlyrical]

Also is there any reason to think that my test is gonna continue dropping even though it's reached my pre cycle levels?

[Buster Brown]

Also is there any reason to think that my test is gonna continue dropping even though it's reached my pre cycle levels?

You can get ralox from the sight sponsor www. Ar-r.com. Your tes levels should be fine.