Blood work Question

[Bryanrobh]

500mg Test-e
600mg Primo
500 IU HCG

per week.

Starting Test before cycle 578. Two months after cycle test 616. Sounds like there is almost no difference. Is this low or am I crazy?

[kelkel]

Do you mean two months after cycle and pct is over? Or two months into the cycle you pulled blood?

[Mr.BB]

Starting Test before cycle 578. Two months after cycle test 616. Sounds like there is almost no difference. Is this low or am I crazy?

How old are?

Seems very normal values, it seems you recovered well.
I had 582 before cycle and around 550 two and a half months after (after pct).

EDIT: you mean 2 months after pct?

[Bryanrobh]

Do you mean two months after cycle and pct is over? Or two months into the cycle you pulled blood?

These numbers are 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle. I am 38.

[kelkel]

These numbers are 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle. I am 38.

Bad gear brother. It it were good your levels would arguably be 3-4K Ng/DL.
I'll give you an example. My TRT protocol is 60-70 mgs twice per week. That keeps me in the 1400-1500 range.
Who knows what your injecting.....

[Bryanrobh]

Bad gear brother. It it were good your levels would arguably be 3-4K Ng/DL.
I'll give you an example. My TRT protocol is 60-70 mgs twice per week. That keeps me in the 1400-1500 range.
Who knows what your injecting.....

Son of a bitch. I am stopping today. So should I even PCT?

So anything I have been doing has been mental? I flat benched 300 for 9 reps last week on my forth set. I weigh 210.

[kelkel]

Well that's hard to say. Depends on whether you're actually shut down or not and the only way to know that is by testing LH/FSH levels. Many variables here as if your test is bunk or even partially bunk, yet your hcg is good then I can see you possibly having that level. That said, if that level is driven by hcg then that in and of itself is suppressive of LH function. It gets complicated Bryan.

If you can't pull that BW quickly then I'd err on the side of running pct. Others will chime in as well. Be good to have some other opinions.

[Mr.BB]

Son of a bitch. I am stopping today. So should I even PCT?

So anything I have been doing has been mental? I flat benched 300 for 9 reps last week on my forth set. I weigh 210.

Ouch, yeah real bad geat. Thought you were talking after cycle.

What are your lh and fsh bloodwork values? That will determine if you need pct.

Edit: oppss too late Kel... Im kinda slow

[clarky.]

500mg Test-e
600mg Primo
500 IU HCG

per week.

Starting Test before cycle 578. Two months after cycle test 616. Sounds like there is almost no difference. Is this low or am I crazy?

give your source a good boot in the b@lls.

[Bryanrobh]

Well that's hard to say. Depends on whether you're actually shut down or not and the only way to know that is by testing LH/FSH levels. Many variables here as if your test is bunk or even partially bunk, yet your hcg is good then I can see you possibly having that level. That said, if that level is driven by hcg then that in and of itself is suppressive of LH function. It gets complicated Bryan.

If you can't pull that BW quickly then I'd err on the side of running pct. Others will chime in as well. Be good to have some other opinions.

Well thats funny because all my PCT and HCG I got from a different source. My testies havent changed in size so would that mean I am not shut down or is that just the HCG doing its job? I have all the Clomid and Nolva ready.

[clarky.]

Well thats funny because all my PCT and HCG I got from a different source. My testies havent changed in size so would that mean I am not shut down or is that just the HCG doing its job? I have all the Clomid and Nolva ready.

Well a bit of both.

[Bryanrobh]

So then to be safe how much PCT should I even do? Should I go with the full on

clomid 75/50/50/50
Nol 40/20/20/20/20

or should it be reduced?

Sorry for these questions I just never thought I would be in this situation. I was perfectly prepared to go through my regular cycle and PCT according to everything I read but I never read anything about having bunk gear and what to do.

[clarky.]

With your numbers you don't need that pct just to be safe though i would do one like.

Clomid 50,25,25,
Nolva 40,20,20,

If that ^^ you barely got over your natty numbers.

[Bryanrobh]

With your numbers you don't need that pct just to be safe though i would do one like.

Clomid 50,25,25,
Nolva 40,20,20,

If that ^^ you barely got over your natty numbers.

Say I did PCT like you put up here but I didnt need it. What would happen to me as a result? Would I even notice sides of these? I would take them before bed

[Bryanrobh]

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[kelkel]

It will just stimulate some more natural production which will normalize when you cease administration. If you're taking an AI I'd be stopping it btw.

[Bryanrobh]

It will just stimulate some more natural production which will normalize when you cease administration. If you're taking an AI I'd be stopping it btw.

I was running .25mg of Amidex EoD. Now that I know this garbage was fake I am wondering if running the Amidex was making me tired or not so excited.

[clarky.]

I was running .25mg of Amidex EoD. Now that I know this garbage was fake I am wondering if running the Amidex was making me tired or not so excited.

Yes low e2 will be the cause for this.

[Bryanrobh]

Yes low e2 will be the cause for this.

Shit. I was doing everything right but with bunk gear no wonder. I want to go rip that guys face off and wear it like Hannibal Lector.

So 2 weeks of pct is that ok?