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Thread: First cycle - 250 or 500 mg?

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    First cycle - 250 or 500 mg?

    Hi all, a few introductory notes

    28 Male, healthy, 6'2'' (188 cm) and 198 lbs (90 kg), with 14% BF.
    Maintenance diet (no deficit or surplus) that I plan to continue.

    Been on a nice workout plan for a good 4-5 months and going ok. Plan to continue that as well. Not too much training experience (1.5 - 2 years), this is a limitation.

    Goal is mainly to switch fatty to muscle tissue. That is more or less to maintain weight with less BF and more lean tissue. A small bulk gain would be welcome, but not mandatory.

    As for the cycle:

    wk 1-12: Test E weekly
    wk 1-14: Arimidex .25 eod
    wk 1-12: hCG 250 iu biweekly
    wk 15-20: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20
    wk 15-18: Clomid 100/50/50/50

    Supplementing with NAC and EFA.

    So, to my 6 (!) questions:

    First, am I missing something that slipped my mind? Sanity check.
    Second, since it is a first cycle and I want it on the safe side, should I go for 500 mg or opt for 250 mg of Test E? I am not overly interested in "mad gainz", just some leanness. Will I see a big difference?
    Third, I was thinking a more "on and off" approach for the hCG, it makes more sense physiologically. Like 2 weeks on, 4 weeks off. What is the current consensus? And, am I otherwise stopping hCG on the correct week?
    Fourth, the workout plan is a mild all-rounder 3 times a week (120 reps weekly volume for each muscle group) with little to no cardio. It is borderline recuperable for me as of current state. Should I up it or is it OK as for intensity? Or maybe add cardio to create caloric deficit if I am able to recuperate more and not anaerobic?
    Fifth, for the weekly injections of Test. It would give any significant pharmacokinetic benefit to administer 3 times in its half-life. I mean, compare the curves in a concentration calc. The top concentration and area-under-curve are comparable. Once weekly is enough and more hassle free, isn't it?
    Sixth, I am running Nolvadex 2 weeks more after Clomid, as per instructions. This is OK, right?

    And two extras: If I stop Test early (side effects or whatever, of course with otherwise proper PCT) will that be a problem? (apart from reaching the goal). And, does it make sense to run test only, on a maintenance diet or with a small caloric deficit?

    Thank you for taking the time!

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    Looks pretty basic
    500 mg a week is prefect amount for 1st cycle
    twice a week injections
    Pct 14 days after last inject
    Hcg no need to adjust or on/off 500iu split twice a week (same time as teste)
    Up to 3 days prior to pct
    you could run nolva a little longer but no need for 2 more weeks
    Stop arimidex 3 days prior pct
    Keep test steady thru out no need to adjust-adjusting will mess your hormones and bloods levels with should be avoided
    Did no see mention of blood work? Pre durning and after
    I would run clomid more like 75/50/50/25 you need to taper off pct
    Anything else?
    Stop over thinking train just do what your body alows you.
    Pct is very important time and there after to maintain gains so do some more research there

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