Feeling really crap, out of breath and HR through the roof

[berkeli]

Hey Guys,

I'm on my first cycle, on 8th week and it hit me real hard, (test 500, deca 300)

past couple of days it just keeps getting worse, I've gained about 12kg and i'm out of breath, occasional headaches and today I feel real cold but yet I'm sweating like it's summer...

Oh and I haven't been able to gain any weight in the past 2 weeks, the only difference is that i stopped Dbol 30mg/d 2 weeks ago..

What could be the problem? right now i feel like ending it and start with the PCT

[Java Man]

What's your BP look like?

[clarky.]

Are you using a AI ?

[lovbyts]

Hey guys remind me why we preach 1st cycle of test only?

Stats?
Age
Height
Weight
Body fat

[clarky.]

So you know what compound is causing you the problem when added.

[Java Man]

Hey guys remind me why we preach 1st cycle of test only?

Stats?
Age
Height
Weight
Body fat

Yep. Kind of late now for OP though. 8 weeks in /

Personally, if I had shortness of breath while doing normal everyday activities on ANY cycle I would stop immediately, get extensive bloodwork asap and see exactly where my problems were.

Something is causing it. Stop the cycle and start pct.

[lovbyts]

Yep. Kind of late now for OP though. 8 weeks in /

Personally, if I had shortness of breath while doing normal everyday activities on ANY cycle I would stop immediately, get extensive bloodwork asap and see exactly where my problems were.

Something is causing it. Stop the cycle and start pct.

Now that just makes to much sense.

[Java Man]

Those aren't even high dosages (IMO I realize it's relative). Did you get blood tests within 6 months prior to your cycle to establish baselines? If not, I'll be nice and not tell you how irresponsible that is in great detail, you have nothing to compare the blood tests you're about to get with. In that case you'll just have to go from here with your health.
I get blood tests every 6 months, more often around a cycle.

Health is far more important than being big. Worms don't care how big you were when you were alive. They just thank you for the supersized meal

[Java Man]

Now that just makes to much sense.

Lmao. Don't it?

[berkeli]

i did do the bloodwork before and everything was on healthy levels(except BP was a bit high).. started PCT and cardio (i suspected lack of cardio could cause this!?) age 23(almost 24) weight (69kg->81kg) height 183.. Bodyfat is around 9-10%

As of AI i'm taking Arimidex 0.5mg eod

thanks for the advice guys.. will book the bloodwork first thing on monday

[berkeli]

Worms don't care how big you were when you were alive.

shit.. you gotta be that dramatic?

[Java Man]

shit.. you gotta be that dramatic?

It's true. No drama. I could have mentioned maggots and carrion beetles but I got the point across without doing so... that I thought, was too dramatic.

[Mr.BB]

i did do the bloodwork before and everything was on healthy levels(except BP was a bit high).. started PCT and cardio (i suspected lack of cardio could cause this!?) age 23(almost 24) weight (69kg->81kg) height 183.. Bodyfat is around 9-10%

As of AI i'm taking Arimidex 0.5mg eod

thanks for the advice guys.. will book the bloodwork first thing on monday

BP was already high before cycle? What values?

You can buy bp checker machine for less than 40$.

Whats the arimidex brand?

[justo]

Isit true that not aspirating and putting the gear in with your blood stream can cause this?

[Mr.BB]

Isit true that not aspirating and putting the gear in with your blood stream can cause this?

Only for a few minutes, cough also happens

[justo]

Only for a few minutes, cough also happens

but I'm sure the cough don't happen with test?

[Buster Brown]

but I'm sure the cough don't happen with test?

The cough happens with all injectable AAS.

[< <Samson> >]

The cough happens with all injectable AAS.

You think?

I still can't prove or figure this out myself

I have only experienced "the cough" when injecting ace

[Buster Brown]

You think?

I still can't prove or figure this out myself

I have only experienced "the cough" when injecting ace

Swear by it! Last summer I was doing tes e and tren a. It happened pinning the tes e only. What a weird feeling!

[Bonaparte]

Sounds like you need to lose some blood and use an AI. Too much blood volume/viscosity and water retention will cause that.

[thisAngelBites]

Sounds like you need to lose some blood and use an AI. Too much blood volume/viscosity and water retention will cause that.

What's up with the elevated BP at 23 years old and 9-10% body fat? Think it's a one-off?

[Java Man]

Dude, stop this cycle and go get checked out. High bp, shortness of breath, fatigue easily, these are not things a man.of 24 should have a problem with.

[Java Man]

What's up with the elevated BP at 23 years old and 9-10% body fat? Think it's a one-off?

What do you mean by one-off? Like a one off bad bp reading that wad skewed for some reason? He actually never stated his bp figures come to think.of it. Just shortness of breath and slightly elevated bp but not actual numbers.

What is your actual BP reading berk and did you get your blood test results yet?

[Mr.BB]

Dont all you guys have a bp machine???

It so cheap

[Java Man]

I have a bp and hr monitor and a glucose tester. I wouldn't assume everyone does. I'm constantly amazed by how little many people think about things like lipid profile, bp and other basic vitals, glucose levels, resting pulse rate, etc. Very easy to monitor those things at home inexpensively but I don't know many non-lifters who do.

[thisAngelBites]

Yes, JavaMan, I meant if it a bad result from white coat syndrome, rushing to get to a doctor's appointment late, etc. as opposed to having consistently mildly elevated BP or pre-hypertension. I think that's worth knowing.

[Java Man]

Yes, JavaMan, I meant if it a bad result from white coat syndrome, rushing to get to a doctor's appointment late, etc. as opposed to having consistently mildly elevated BP or pre-hypertension. I think that's worth knowing.

He should me taking it morning, afternoon if possible or early evening, and before bed daily, logging each reading in an excel spreadsheet, and getting a graphed output of the daily 3 point avg over time.

Doesn't everyone do that or just geek computer programmers?