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Thread: Very high estro due to HCG even with AI. Drop it next time?

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    Very high estro due to HCG even with AI. Drop it next time?

    Hej folks,

    I got my bloodwork back with a massive delay. Noneoftheless, my estradiol levels are way too high. My cycle looked as followed;

    - Week 1 to 10: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
    - Week 1 to 10: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
    - Week 1 to 12: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

    Even though I took an AI through out the entire cycle, my estradiol levels are way too high for my taste. I read that HCG could promote to high estro levels due to the production of more test and thereby more free test to aromatize.
    Furthermore I need to add that I think my Adex is legit, but I could be wrong if I look at my bloodwork.

    I'd like to learn from this cycle so I would like to know if I should drop HCG for my next cycle/throw it in at the end, etc.
    BTW. I had no severe sides. Just water retention and more pimples around chest and back than I used too.

    Help appreciated!

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    Did you get your adex from ar-r? I have read a lot of reports of under-dosed AI the past couple of years from other well known suppliers.

    I would not drop the HCG. I would either get adex from somewhere else such as ar-r or at least up the dose or do .25 every day and make sure to get blood work 4-6 weeks in just to be sure.

    What were your E2 levels? Did you get blood work done or are you just going by how you felt?

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    Like Lovbyts said, the 0.25 is a starting dose, in case needed you should up the dose according to the bloodwork.

    What were the values in the bloodwork?

    What is you bodyfat %?

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    had AI from Accord Healthcare. I'd say that they're legit, but I can't be 100% sure about that :-/

    I did my bloodwork 6 weeks in. But due to mailissues I received it yesterday....so a massive delay.

    Here are my levels;
    Estradiol 105.1pg/ml
    Testosterone >15ng/ml
    Free Testosterone >95.00pg/ml

    Pre-Cycle I looked as followed (unfortunately no stats of free test at this time);
    Estradiol 14.3 pg/ml
    Testosterone 4.28ng/ml

    I need to say that I felt great, strength got up and no real e2 sides except for bit more pimples and water retention.

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    Is that sensitive estradiol? What were the ranges for normal?

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    Hope you can get an idea of it even though it's german. If not, I try to translate them :-) (Important stats bottom)
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    BTW. BF were 13%

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    I dont think that is sensitive E2, looks like standard. Sensitive is always better. I think if it was me I would just run either .50 every other day or .25 every day and see how it goes but I would not drop the HCG.

    Why did you start another thread? Accident?

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    Damn, Than it's not in the bloodtest I think. :-/
    It seems to me that it's a severe rise compared to pre cycle...

    Yeah, clicked back on my browser and forth again, then I accidentely did a double post :-/
    Last edited by Pericu; 02-03-2015 at 03:37 AM.

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