Better results from delt injections, test enth or cyp?

[fightnews]

So I have it on word from a doctor, I have an email he sent my friend claiming you'll get "much better" results using delt injections. He's talking about test cyp but he prob means enthate to, what do you bro's and hoe's think?

[clarky.]

Load of nonsense

[spradamania]

I prefer the delts, personally. Not because of greater effectiveness but rather it is an easier angle for me to hit. That and I've never had any kind of pip there. There are a lot of people on both sides of the fence when it comes to spot injections. I think as long as it gets in your system properly, it'll work the same. But I'm no doctor.

[Red Bastard]

Better "results", in what context?
Results can mean many things...

Is the Dr just meaning a simpler location, for a tiny TRT injection?

[AussieMachine]

I actually find quads the best place for me. Seems to hold a lot more

[SOL!D5NAK3]

it is actually the other way, there was a study about the site injection and the bigger muscles that were injected more goodies will be in the blood

[fightnews]

Better "results", in what context?
Results can mean many things...

Is the Dr just meaning a simpler location, for a tiny TRT injection?

I din't know it is in the context of a trt injection of 200mg but he just says "much better results" without really going into detail. This is copied from a section of the email titled medication cheat sheet....

Testosterone/D3 - Pull up .5 of the D3 in the drawing needle (20 G 1" big needle) and then pull up 1 cc of testosterone in the same needle. You'll have a total of 1.5 ccs in the needle. Switch over the tip to the 25 G 5/8" tip and do your shot. Go for the delt (shoulder). You will get far better results in the shoulder than if you do the glutes.

[fightnews]

it is actually the other way, there was a study about the site injection and the bigger muscles that were injected more goodies will be in the blood

When you inject the glute though arent you really injecting the gluteus medius though?

[Buster Brown]

It really doesn't matter. Try to find a few muscle groups that you can easily pin. For me its glutes, quads, Delts, and triceps. If you run fast Esther's then you will want to include a few more if possible. Some guys like chest, biceps and lats. Pray for no pip and always look to improve your injection technique...that's it.

[SOL!D5NAK3]

When you inject the glute though arent you really injecting the gluteus medius though?

yes,yet that is bigger than deltoids(you inject in the middle one so 1/3 of the whole muscle)
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It really doesn't matter. Try to find a few muscle groups that you can easily pin. For me its glutes, quads, Delts, and triceps. If you run fast Esther's then you will want to include a few more if possible. Some guys like chest, biceps and lats. Pray for no pip and always look to improve your injection technique...that's it.

it actually does and depends on concentration too

-one group used npp (25mg/ml)100mg/4ml in glutes
-one group used deca (25mg/ml)100mg/4ml in glutes
-one deca 100mg/1ml glutes
-one deca 100mg/1ml delts
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/281/1/93.abstract


but that just in the paper and maybe it really doesn't matter i use whichever is easier.

[Bio-Active]

I do delt injections often just because they are easier. Delts and quads are my go to sites but the word is the bigger the muscle you pin the better the absorption. That's why most places pin glutes

[600@50]

I use several sites in glutes and in quads. Can't reach my delts. No plans to use chest or tris ever.

[Bio-Active]

I use several sites in glutes and in quads. Can't reach my delts. No plans to use chest or tris ever.

I have never understood why people pin in those sites (chest tri's bi's etc)when you have so much room to move your injections around with delts quads and glutes.

[Buster Brown]

yes,yet that is bigger than deltoids(you inject in the middle one so 1/3 of the whole muscle)
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it actually does and depends on concentration too

-one group used npp (25mg/ml)100mg/4ml in glutes
-one group used deca (25mg/ml)100mg/4ml in glutes
-one deca 100mg/1ml glutes
-one deca 100mg/1ml delts
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/281/1/93.abstract

but that just in the paper and maybe it really doesn't matter i use whichever is easier.

I dont really care about the graph, you need injection sites and that's the bottom line. I have yet to have an issue pinning tri's or delts.

[Buster Brown]

I have never understood why people pin in those sites (chest tri's bi's etc)when you have so much room to move your injections around with delts quads and glutes.

Triceps really aren't that bad to reach or aspirate.

[Bio-Active]

Triceps really aren't that bad to reach or aspirate.

right but why bother when you have so many other big muscle groups to use?

[Buster Brown]

right but why bother when you have so many other big muscle groups to use?

I have just always had good luck with them and now its just a matter of convenience.

[Bio-Active]

I have just always had good luck with them and now its just a matter of convenience.

fair enough brother

[Red Bastard]

I din't know it is in the context of a trt injection of 200mg but he just says "much better results" without really going into detail. This is copied from a section of the email titled medication cheat sheet....

Testosterone/D3 - Pull up .5 of the D3 in the drawing needle (20 G 1" big needle) and then pull up 1 cc of testosterone in the same needle. You'll have a total of 1.5 ccs in the needle. Switch over the tip to the 25 G 5/8" tip and do your shot. Go for the delt (shoulder). You will get far better results in the shoulder than if you do the glutes.

Well, in this narrow context, if the Dr has recommended, or supplied, 5/8" needles, for injection, then glutes are pretty much ruled out. Then, considering that any medical injection that I've had, has always been in the shoulder, I can understand the Dr's instructions. I just wouldn't read too much into his statement, beyond the narrow context of that particular scenario...

[fightnews]

I use several sites in glutes and in quads. Can't reach my delts. No plans to use chest or tris ever.

you cant reach your side delt? srsly???

[fightnews]

Well, in this narrow context, if the Dr has recommended, or supplied, 5/8" needles, for injection, then glutes are pretty much ruled out. Then, considering that any medical injection that I've had, has always been in the shoulder, I can understand the Dr's instructions. I just wouldn't read too much into his statement, beyond the narrow context of that particular scenario...

actually plenty of people do glutes with 5/8" pins including me, and don't have a problem. you can EASILY press the needle against your skin another 5/16". its nothing

[fightnews]

I have never understood why people pin in those sites (chest tri's bi's etc)when you have so much room to move your injections around with delts quads and glutes.

some people think it makes them grow more

[Buster Brown]

some people think it makes them grow more

This is def bro science at its best. There have been many threads posted in the past about this that usually end up giving us all a good laugh.

[Red Bastard]

actually plenty of people do glutes with 5/8" pins including me, and don't have a problem. you can EASILY press the needle against your skin another 5/16". its nothing

Yes, I agree, and have, on occasion, used 5/8 in my glutes, without any problems.
I'm just trying to interpret the reason behind the Dr.'s specific instructions...

[fightnews]

This is def bro science at its best. There have been many threads posted in the past about this that usually end up giving us all a good laugh.

I know I always use the analogy that people usually inject in the glute but you don't see guys walking around with gigantic a ss muscles. But I have heard there are a lot of receptors in the shoulders but who knows, the guy must be saying it for some reason, Im sure he believes it and hes qualified. He wouldn't just say it to hear himself talk

[600@50]

you cant reach your side delt? srsly???

Nope. Seriously.

[NACH3]

So I have it on word from a doctor, I have an email he sent my friend claiming you'll get "much better" results using delt injections. He's talking about test cyp but he prob means enthate to, what do you bro's and hoe's think?

I've never heard such a thing of pinning in your delts being more effective! Where do you come up w/this?!

Bigger muscles hold more oil and is absorbed better in that sense(but delts are smaller than glutes/quads)...

Strictly bro science!

[< <Samson> >]

I've never heard such a thing of pinning in your delts being more effective! Where do you come up w/this?! .

I would like to hear this

Lol

[fightnews]

I would like to hear this

Lol

What are you to retarded or something, I posted the email from the doctor who said it plus I clearly said it was from a doctor in the post nach quoted, try reading next time. You guys are the "bro's" here.

[NACH3]

What are you to retarded or something, I posted the email from the doctor who said it plus I clearly said it was from a doctor in the post nach quoted, try reading next time. You guys are the "bro's" here.

I'm referring to it being more effective(now its easy and harder to make a mistake on delts IMO) but just b/c s Dr. Says(doesn't mean he's up to date and really knowing - maybe he is - just never heard of that) I don't think he's referring to it being more effective than absorption from bigger muscle groups per say, but maybe just maybe it's harder to make a mistake or have worse technique than the glutes/& quads!

This is the only thing I could have thought he meant, IMO!

[< <Samson> >]

Yes, I am retarded

But, apparently not as much as your MD


I swear still, the shit you hear - you can't make up

[NACH3]

Yes, I am retarded

But, apparently not as much as your MD


I swear still, the shit you hear - you can't make up

I was waiting to hear this... And yes his MD sure doesn't sound like any specialist... Yes he may practice but as stated in the "finding a doc sticky" it's very common for MDs not to be up to speed regarding hormones... Thus the importance of finding a good one!

[lovbyts]

I was waiting to hear this... And yes his MD sure doesn't sound like any specialist... Yes he may practice but as stated in the "finding a doc sticky" it's very common for MDs not to be up to speed regarding hormones... Thus the importance of finding a good one!

Do you know what they call a medical student that finishes dead last in his class? Doctor...

It's just like any other profession, there are idiots and quacks. Just because a guy has a broken down automotive shop with a bunch of broken down cars outside would you take your Porsche there for service?

[< <Samson> >]

Do you know what they call a medical student that finishes dead last in his class? Doctor... It's just like any other profession, there are idiots and quacks. Just because a guy has a broken down automotive shop with a bunch of broken down cars outside would you take your Porsche there for service?

Lmfao


That just about covers it

[Buster Brown]

Lmfao

That just about covers it

It just gets better and better lately!

[fightnews]

Yes, I am retarded

But, apparently not as much as your MD


I swear still, the shit you hear - you can't make up

Ya sure, you're smarter then a doctor who deals with hormones for a living now? How much has ANYONE ever paid you for your advice? I know its hard to believe but maybe, just maybe he knows things you don't. You can't even comprehend information you read in a thread when its right in front of you?

[fightnews]

Do you know what they call a medical student that finishes dead last in his class? Doctor...

It's just like any other profession, there are idiots and quacks. Just because a guy has a broken down automotive shop with a bunch of broken down cars outside would you take your Porsche there for service?

Ya and do you know what they call a bunch of steroid abusing junkies on an internet forum who think they know everything?> You guys

[Buster Brown]

No one is trying to insult you so don't take it that way. We know you are just trying to share some information and be a productive member but here's the thing with your findings: we .....the so called "abusers" have real world experience and do monitor our progress will all tell you that we haven't grown "more" from a certain type injection protocol. This topic has been discussed here before so without insulting you, your really not bringing anything new to the table. I agree some comments may come across as harsh including my own from time to time and its only because our combined experience does not support what you have presented. The guys here are good guys so try to not get a bad taste in your mouth and let it ruin your research and so forth.

[NACH3]

No one is trying to insult you so don't take it that way. We know you are just trying to share some information and be a productive member but here's the thing with your findings: we .....the so called "abusers" have real world experience and do monitor our progress will all tell you that we haven't grown "more" from a certain type injection protocol. This topic has been discussed here before so without insulting you, your really not bringing anything new to the table. I agree some comments may come across as harsh including my own from time to time and its only because our combined experience does not support what you have presented. The guys here are good guys so try to not get a bad taste in your mouth and let it ruin your research and so forth.

Well said Buster!

[Red Bastard]

Ya sure, you're smarter then a doctor who deals with hormones for a living now?...

Had the impression, from your posts, that he was a GP, with a TRT patient. So, he's actually an Endocrinologist?