I'm running tren ace 50m eod and test e 250m a week,

[Jrobert]

I'm running tren ace 50m eod and test e 250m a week, I'm on day 15 and feeling nothing yet. The gear is solid and comes from a great source. I know tren takes 12 to 14 days to kick in. I'm wondering if this is to low of a tren dose, its my first time with tren so I wanted to start small. Also thinking about adding var the last 6 weeks, the test will run 10weeks and the tren 6 , so the var would overlap as the tren cycles out. Any feed back would be great. Looking to cut with this cycle also.

[lovbyts]

No the tren is not to low but it can still take longer than 2 weeks to feel the sides. Night sweats, lack of stamina for cardio etc.

Are you using an AI? HCG? What is your planned PCT?

While we are at it, stats?
Age
Hight
Weight
Body fat
Training experience
Cycle experience

[mikegilbert1986]

that tren dose is low as hell id do at least 100 eod. if your gonna do it at least get something out of it with a moderate dose.

[lovbyts]

It's not that low when you consider how anabolic tren is. You can get good results on 200mg of tren a week. I know it only works out to be 175mg but it's close enough and you can still get gains.

[qscgugcsq]

that tren dose is low as hell id do at least 100 eod. if your gonna do it at least get something out of it with a moderate dose.

Then your tren was underdosed...

I did 50mg EOD for few weeks and Crealy felt it...
I was disapointed to see that even at those dose I had difficulty sleeping and lost cardio... tried this dose to eliminate those sides... which didnt happen cause tren is very potent.

Agreed that if you gonna endure the sides better make it worth it and go to 100EOD.

But 50mg eod will work no doubt if legit and well dosed.

[Buster Brown]

It's not that low when you consider how anabolic tren is. You can get good results on 200mg of tren a week. I know it only works out to be 175mg but it's close enough and you can still get gains.

This is true LB but who knows what its really dosed at. I know your advice is based on gear dosed correctly but I feel this is a big problem and one of the reasons guys end up doing ridiculous dosages way too early.

[Jrobert]

No the tren is not to low but it can still take longer than 2 weeks to feel the sides. Night sweats, lack of stamina for cardio etc.

Are you using an AI? HCG? What is your planned PCT?

While we are at it, stats?
Age
Hight
Weight
Body fat
Training experience
Cycle experience

No AI, I have a Pct that I'm looking at called Evolution PCT. I have not picked anything up yet.
I'm 32
5'7
185
body fat 17%
when I'am at 175 my body fat is 11.9
Did some contact work in Kuwait for 3 months and coulndt train much.
Not a body builder, i'm very active and do alot of olympic lifting and crossfit style training for the past 2 years.
I ran a cycle of just test about 5 years ago.

[Buster Brown]

That pct is junk. You need clomid and tamoxifen. You also need to look into a AI and hcg. Tren is not a wise second choice for a compound due to the sides, better off with Npp.

[qscgugcsq]

No AI, I have a Pct that I'm looking at called Evolution PCT. I have not picked anything up yet.
I'm 32
5'7
185
body fat 17%
when I'am at 175 my body fat is 11.9
Did some contact work in Kuwait for 3 months and coulndt train much.
Not a body builder, i'm very active and do alot of olympic lifting and crossfit style training for the past 2 years.
I ran a cycle of just test about 5 years ago.

Then why not test only again...

Maybe some var at the end and some T3 during.

No need to go on tren at youe second cycle especially if it were so long ago.

Plus, you seems to dont really understand the importance of AI/HCG/PCT.
Those are a must for a successfull cycle.

Someone will surely post it to you.

Successfull first cycle by Austinite. A must read for any steroids user.

[lovbyts]

This is true LB but who knows what its really dosed at. I know your advice is based on gear dosed correctly but I feel this is a big problem and one of the reasons guys end up doing ridiculous dosages way too early.

You are 100% correct, I didnt take that into consideration. Good point.

[Jrobert]

Are Ai/hgc and clomid online to buy?

[lovbyts]

You can get your PCT clomid and nolva from ar-r at the top right banner. The HCG you will have to google and order but dont worry, it's mostly all legit as long as you dont try using some cheap oral stuff, that's all fake.

Clomid and nolvadex is oral so not to worry there. I agree with the above post. DONT try any of the OTC PCT stuff, it's fake.

[Jrobert]

You can get your PCT clomid and nolva from ar-r at the top right banner. The HCG you will have to google and order but dont worry, it's mostly all legit as long as you dont try using some cheap oral stuff, that's all fake. Clomid and nolvadex is oral so not to worry there. I agree with the above post. DONT try any of the OTC PCT stuff, it's fake.

Should I take anything else while on this cycle since it's all low dose?

[Buster Brown]

You are 100% correct, I didnt take that into consideration. Good point.

I know that's not an excuse to tell guys to run more gear, more a point of frustration.

[Buster Brown]

Should I take anything else while on this cycle since it's all low dose?

More compounds isn't always better or make you grow more, in fact it can make your cycle more complex and make it harder to find the source of side effect issues.