question about getting dry

[gablgabl]

Ive been taking testosterone sustanone and boldenone, about 1000 mg each twice a week. Im dieting while taking those, i also started with winny recently. altogether the cycle should be around 12 weeks.

So my question is - I managed to shed a lot of fat, so I barely have any left, but according to the pro that took a look at me, I have a lot of water retention. Ive been running arimidex, 1mg every other day, but I wanted to do the water manipulation for a week in order to get dry as powder.

So my question is, this is the 8th week on my cycle, can I go with drinking 2,5-3 gallons of water for four days and then cut water in order to get dry, or does adex / the juice prevent that from happening?

[NACH3]

What's your stats? Cycke history?

It's all diet dependent! If your diet and training are dialed in and your drinking plenty of water this won't be an issue... Cardio also works great...

Could be your dex is bunk... But that's a shit load of gear(4 grams a wk) way too much!

More is not better in this case(what do you think your doses will be like in a couple yrs?!

[Back In Black]

You've never ran test or EQ before and are on 2g per week of each, WTF is wrong is wrong with you? Who gives you your crazy cycles?

[clarky.]

You should run this by the pro.

[NACH3]

You've never ran test or EQ before and are on 2g per week of each, WTF is wrong is wrong with you? Who gives you your crazy cycles?

Just a quick ? BIB... Didn't he say 1000mgs of each 2X wkly/totaling 4grams between the two compounds?

And what a mess... And only 24!

[Back In Black]

Just a quick ? BIB... Didn't he say 1000mgs of each 2X wkly/totaling 4grams between the two compounds?

And what a mess... And only 24!

That's what I'm Getting too, 2g each per week. As a first test cycle. The mind boggles sometimes.

[NACH3]

That's what I'm Getting too, 2g each per week. As a first test cycle. The mind boggles sometimes.

My bad just re-read your post(didn't see the each part)

I hear ya... Sooo much gear(totally unnecessary & dangerous/unsafe at that!!! Unreal!

[gablgabl]

bros, i know what im doing. i did a lot of research and the dose was advice from a professional boybuilder and and winner of young bodybuilding...something. anyway im not here to take lectures on the dosage. just answer my damn question.
can i or can i not do the drying out like the pros do before the competition while im on the gear and adex?

[NACH3]

You don't... Or you would be doing this w/out any advice from your pro(who may be huge, but is sorely mistaken on the right/safest concepts that science has advanced in!!!

And your answer is in my post above... Again diet/training/cardio will dictate your goals! But you know that already...

[kelkel]

Just a quick ? BIB... Didn't he say 1000mgs of each 2X wkly/totaling 4grams between the two compounds?

And what a mess... And only 24!

That's what I'm Getting too, 2g each per week. As a first test cycle. The mind boggles sometimes.

Look at you two. So quick with the math.

[NACH3]

Look at you two. So quick with the math.

I'm a mathematical wizard... Lmao!

NOT!

[Back In Black]

bros, i know what im doing. i did a lot of research and the dose was advice from a professional boybuilder and and winner of young bodybuilding...something. anyway im not here to take lectures on the dosage. just answer my damn question.
can i or can i not do the drying out like the pros do before the competition while im on the gear and adex?

Ask your pro bodybuilder Mr 'Something' surely he will have the answer for you?

Or you can start graciously taking advice here as you clearly have no idea what you are doing. We are here to help those that help themselves.

Good luck.

[gablgabl]

like i said, i only need an answer for the water retention. this is my last week with bold so it doesnt matter now anyway, but im not here to discuss dosage. if you can help me with guidance for getting dry, i would appreciate it, if not, its ok, im moving on

[clarky.]

See it from our point gab the doeses are over the top the a pro told you look like you are holding water why did he not tell you what to do ?. Why are you wanting to be so dry ? Have you had blood work done to see what's going on and what's your diet like are you drinking enough is your adex gtg. See there is lot's here but you are not helping us to help you. Are you doing cardio what about salt intake these are all big things to do with water retention.

[gablgabl]

aright so. heres what he told me. "a lot of people take 600 but everyhing below 800 has no effect, so just take 1 ml each". oh thats right, i forgot, im measuring in ml, not mg, is that any different? he told me to take adex once a day to reduce water bloatedness, said i dont have almost any fat so gave me the green light for winny. im on keto diet, which means 0 carbs up until sunday when i have semi-loading, like 100-300 carbs, mostly 300. im drinking a shitload of water. not using salt.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

aright so. heres what he told me. "a lot of people take 600 but everyhing below 800 has no effect, so just take 1 ml each". oh thats right, i forgot, im measuring in ml, not mg, is that any different? he told me to take adex once a day to reduce water bloatedness, said i dont have almost any fat so gave me the green light for winny. im on keto diet, which means 0 carbs up until sunday when i have semi-loading, like 100-300 carbs, mostly 300. im drinking a shitload of water. not using salt.

Let's answer this shall we...

You say you are taking 1ml of each...
What mg/ml are your test and EQ?
How many shots per week?

[clarky.]

What is the mg per ml on the vial ? Pls don't listen to this guy i can assure you you will get the help here you need.

[gablgabl]

300 mg per ml, twice a week. which means 600mg of each vial weekly

[EquilibriumZ]

300 mg per ml, twice a week. which means 600mg of each vial weekly

Shit i m confused. So you are taking 600mg sus 600mg eq everyweek?

[gablgabl]

yeah, sorry, my bad. its not 1000mg im taking, but 1ml of each, which contains 300mg. i take 1ml of sust and 1ml of equi on mondays and then the same dosage again on thursdays

[The Deadlifting Dog]

yeah, sorry, my bad. its not 1000mg im taking, but 1ml of each, which contains 300mg. i take 1ml of sust and 1ml of equi on mondays and then the same dosage again on thursdays

The recommended dosage of Arimidex is .25 mg EOD. That works out to .875mgs per week.
You are taking 1mg EOD which works out to 3.5mgs per week.

You are most probably taking way too much Arimidex and will crash your E2.

[EquilibriumZ]

yeah, sorry, my bad. its not 1000mg im taking, but 1ml of each, which contains 300mg. i take 1ml of sust and 1ml of equi on mondays and then the same dosage again on thursdays

Ok ya that's 600 mg each a week.

Sounds like your armidex is fake.

Can you post pic, that way we can see what's going on and tell you what to do about the water exactly

Also take hcg during, also what's your pct?

[gablgabl]

this is from a few days ago

[NACH3]

like i said, i only need an answer for the water retention. this is my last week with bold so it doesnt matter now anyway, but im not here to discuss dosage. if you can help me with guidance for getting dry, i would appreciate it, if not, its ok, im moving on

That much a-dex you would've already crashed it, I woukd think(I'm taking .25eod and haven't had problems... And AIs will keep bloar down if diet is on par, training and cardio as well as more water intake... Do you eat whole foods, natural sugars(from veggies and fruits) and count cals and hit your macro split? I know you said you don't use salt but do you watch your intake?? This will hold water very much so!

This also has me questioning the legitimacy of your dex...

[gablgabl]

havent thought through what my pct will be, will get to that soon

[gablgabl]

i dont take any kinds of carbs since im on keto. i drink a lot of water, have been doing walking on the treadmill "uphill", 3 times a week for 30-45 mins. i got adex from the pharmacy, could it be fake even there? i dont really count my calories since im always below 2500, usually i take around 250g of protein and the rest of the calories comes from fat.

[NACH3]

i dont take any kinds of carbs since im on keto. i drink a lot of water, have been doing walking on the treadmill "uphill", 3 times a week for 30-45 mins. i got adex from the pharmacy, could it be fake even there? i dont really count my calories since im always below 2500, usually i take around 250g of protein and the rest of the calories comes from fat.

Pharmacy it should be g2g... Are you outta the states?

I would find out your TDEE which will tell you how many cals you need to maintain, now depending on if you want to cut or not(which isn't a good idea on PCT(as you'll lose the gains youve made)... What is your actual goal?

[gablgabl]

while im on the cycle id like to get skinned like a rabbit, and after that maintaining muscle, although on this diet i didnt get any gains while i was on the juice, im just getting more vascular and shredded. after around 3 months of "regenerating" id like to start another cycle and then just build slow but steady gainz.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

OP,

The only way for you to get the dry look is for you to lose at least 5% bodyfat. At best I would say you are 15% bodyfat. At 15% you can start to see abs. Even with the direct overhead lighting your abs aren't visible.
I am not being an ass. Just honest.
By the way, I am currently too fat also so I am not trying to just call you out.

[gablgabl]

yeah, i understand, but not to rationalize or anything, but the picture really doesnt show my true quality. my abs and other muscles are a looot more visible in reality, but theres still a lot of work to do. according to the caliper im around 12% bf right now. when i grab my skin theres barely any skin to be grabbed, but im still bloated as ****

[NACH3]

while im on the cycle id like to get skinned like a rabbit, and after that maintaining muscle, although on this diet i didnt get any gains while i was on the juice, im just getting more vascular and shredded. after around 3 months of "regenerating" id like to start another cycle and then just build slow but steady gainz.

Gab, come visit the diet and nutrition sec as we can help sort you out... There's a thread that you post everything you eat in a day(very motivational) and the members will help you w/anything you need!

cardio and a good training program will only bring you so far if diet isn't dialed In nice and clean... We all want the best for each other... So you'll get the help you need here...

[gablgabl]

thanks bro. posted a thread there. hope to get some answers there. thank you all for the time taken to write answers for me

[EquilibriumZ]

thanks bro. posted a thread there. hope to get some answers there. thank you all for the time taken to write answers for me

Yo gab, you dont have that much water retention, you still have alot more fat to burn like way more, so dont worry about water retention for now. Also if you add more muscle, you ll look more "defined".
If you get rid of the water retention, it still wont make a difference, fat has your muscles covered. When i do caliplier it says i m 6% yet i dont have that much abs. Yours says 12, so you can guess the rest

[reporich]

[QUOTE=gablgabl;7023980]Ive been taking testosterone sustanone and boldenone, about 1000 mg each twice a week. Im dieting while taking those, i also started with winny recently. altogether the cycle should be around 12 weeks.

So my question is - I managed to shed a lot of fat, so I barely have any left, but according to the pro that took a look at me, I have a lot of water retention. Ive been running arimidex, 1mg every other day, but I wanted to do the water manipulation for a week in order to get dry as powder.

So my question is, this is the 8th week on my cycle, can I go with drinking 2,5-3 gallons of water for four days and then cut water in order to get dry, or does adex / the juice prevent that from happening?[/QUOTE
Boldenone is a waste at twelve weeks, it needs to be run longer...

[lovbyts]

OK I'm not going to say to much because the others have covered quite a bit and I dont want to just echo them.

I have to ask though, how long have you been lifting? I dont mean since you were 16. I mean how long have you been in the gym 4-5 days a week EVERY week? I'm guessing 6 months, 1yr max but doubtful.

You really need to get more of a base before spending money on another cycle because you are wasting your money. It's sort of like filing your gas tank on your 1970 stock Chevy Malibu 6cyl with 104 octane gas. It just aint gona do 11 sec quarter miles. lol

To get the bang you are looking for out of any type of aas you really need to have a solid foundation. No offense meant, just trying to save you some headaches and money. You can make a LOT of gains with diet and proper training for the next year or two.

[RangerDanger830]

OK I'm not going to say to much because the others have covered quite a bit and I dont want to just echo them. I have to ask though, how long have you been lifting? I dont mean since you were 16. I mean how long have you been in the gym 4-5 days a week EVERY week? I'm guessing 6 months, 1yr max but doubtful. You really need to get more of a base before spending money on another cycle because you are wasting your money. It's sort of like filing your gas tank on your 1970 stock Chevy Malibu 6cyl with 104 octane gas. It just aint gona do 11 sec quarter miles. lol To get the bang you are looking for out of any type of aas you really need to have a solid foundation. No offense meant, just trying to save you some headaches and money. You can make a LOT of gains with diet and proper training for the next year or two.

I agree, and learn more about the gear you're taking. There should be no confusion between a ml and mg. You should also have a better understanding of bloating, how an AI affects that, and how to best use your AI.

PCT? HCG?