Cycle - Test/Winny/Clen - Help

[thrillaz]

Hey guys,

Posted below but there was a change up and a had a few question/little nervous about the change. My guy couldn't source the var and switched it with winny, the good news is I saved $300, the bad news is I don't know too much other than its in the same field as var but stronger. Also, my test is has changed from test-E to a blend of test (E/C/P/I/). I am not sure how both impact my cycle but i wanted to post and as some more questions.

Week 1: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
Week 2: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
Week 3: Test (500mg/week)
Week 4: Test (500mg/week)
Week 5: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
Week 6: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)/Winny 50mg
Week 7: Test (500mg/week)/Winny 50mg?
Week 8: Test (500mg/week)/Winny 50mg?
Week 9: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)/Winny 50mg
Week 10: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)/Winny 50mg
Week 11: Nothing
Week 12: Nothing
Week 13: PCT+ Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
Week 14: PCT + Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
Week 15: PCT
Week 16: PCT


AI: Liquid Arimidex -.25mg; every other day starting on Day 2. -Ends when PCT starts
hCG: 250iU every 3.5 days (same day as test shot)

PCT: Liquid Clomid - 75/50/50/50mg (daily)
Liquid Tamox - 40/20/20/20mg (daily)

Daily: NAC 600mg of NAC - until end of week 16
Taurine (3-5mg) - when using clen

I am trying to source hcg as well, hopefully there's a way I can verify a legit brand here on the forums, been searching online.

So here are my questions:

1. My buddy uses the test blend, says its a lot better, he said since its mixed with Test E; I can still choose to shoot it only twice a week and you can still wait 14 days after the last shot to start PCT?

2. I have never used Winstrol, with AI and HCG, should I expect any side effects, be wary of anything? I have used var with no side effects but not winny. Should I supplement with anything else?

3. Is 50mg Winny a good dosage and do you take it daily?

4. If i did take hcg, with this cycle how much IU will I need? is 500iu enough?


Stats - 6'0/200lbs/13-15%BF. Goal=Primary lose body fat and get as strong as possible ;-).
Diet = 2g pro/1g carbs/.5g fats x bw
half way through - 1.75g/.75g carbs/.5gs

What do you think of reducing the macros mid-way as well?

[thrillaz]

I have read multiple threads and seems most people are answering about the problems of oral only cycles :/.....I can't seem to find my answers about winstrol, its flooded with oral only cycle questions.

Any help would be appreciated? I saw some people dont take winny the whole cycle and only in the 2nd half as well....

[thrillaz]

Also been reading more, so winny if taken orally should only taken max 6 weeks (preventative) and 50mg orally, broken up in half 2x a day (morning and night).

Do you guys think I can swing 6 weeks or should keep it to the last 4 weeks?

[swolehead]

I think you shold drop the winstrol completely depending on your age wich you left out

[thrillaz]

I am 26 years old. why should i drop the winny?

[griim18]

I am 26 years old. why should i drop the winny?

You shoudn't be doing AAS at 26 wait until you're 29-30

[thrillaz]

thats incorrect its until your bones have fused which has happened a long time ago....anyways anyone with info on winny would be much appreciated.

[miller1085]

Yeah winny will make your joints ache. I've read that winny is a waist of time, but then again other people have liked it. I believe the basic run time is 5 weeks at 50mg ED at the last5 weeks of your cycle, I believe it can be bridged at the end also.

[swolehead]

if i was a bodybuilder I wouldn't use it unless in single digit body fat and about to get on stage

[reporich]

You shoudn't be doing AAS at 26 wait until you're 29-30

Where did you get this info?