Torn Acl & Mcl

[Cruz0528]

I tore my Acl and MCL 4 weeks into a cycle. I am going to stop and start my pct. After I do surgery I was wondering if I should start again during my rehab process to possibly quicken recovery time, or wait till I am 100% before starting again.

[spywizard]

have you considered low dose GH, 2iu day ?? the issue with steroids is although they cause growth, the dose that we take to increase muscle fibers/strength/size

stim cell also comes into the picture.. how old are you?? and what would be a typical "recovery cycle" in your eyes?

[bartman314]

i had a total hip replacement jan 15. on feb 1 i started a cycle of sermorelin+ghrp to stimulate natural gh production. i did this to help facilitate healing of the joint (as well as get a bit of a bump with my lifting - which is all upperbody until about a week ago). next week, i'm starting a cycle (tren a + test p) to help get my legs back - but i'll be really careful to not overtrain the joints - hip and i've had both acl's done years ago).

so... i recommend what i'm doing and i think the sermorelin+ghrp is helping fwiw.

good luck with it.

[jimmyinkedup]

Id consider tb500 and i also like the idea of a gh peptide stack like was mentioned above. Id do that along with physical therapy before Id hop on a steroid cycle

[Cruz0528]

I am 30 years old. From what I have read Deca, Primo, Eq, and GH will all enhance collagen repair. While Test will reduce collagen production. I have never cycled any of these with out some sort of test. Any ideas. How long after surgery should I wait.

[Cruz0528]

i had a total hip replacement jan 15. on feb 1 i started a cycle of sermorelin+ghrp to stimulate natural gh production. i did this to help facilitate healing of the joint (as well as get a bit of a bump with my lifting - which is all upperbody until about a week ago). next week, i'm starting a cycle (tren a + test p) to help get my legs back - but i'll be really careful to not overtrain the joints - hip and i've had both acl's done years ago).

so... i recommend what i'm doing and i think the sermorelin+ghrp is helping fwiw.

good luck with it.

Good info! Thank you

[Cruz0528]

Good info! Thank you

Did u get it from your doc, or order it?

[jbeck229]

First of all. That sucks! I did the same about 14 months ago and let me tell you all about it. hopefully this will help you. DO YOUR REHAB! DO YOUR REHAB!

NO SHORT CUTS ON REHAB!

First of all. The ACL is a ligament NOT a muscle.... so NOTHING you take is going to make your ACL & MCL stronger faster. now you can strengthen the muscles around it but again that's not going to affect the recovery process at all! people say that the rehab is the worst part of the ACL recovery process which is partly true but honestly the worst part comes after the rehab when you start feel 100% About 3-5 months out is where it gets tricky because your knee is going to start feeling really good, like maybe so good that you think ur a freak of nature and your ACL healed faster than Adrian Peterson's did. I promise thats not the case. It still needs time to heal. No matter what you take to make ur leg/knee stronger, its still not going to make that ligament any stronger. If anything, making those muscles to big around it could possibly be bad on that ACL because that ACL isn't going to grow like the muscles do. The bigger those muscles the stronger they pull on that ligament. Now I don't know what you do in your everyday life but if your an athlete and you play some kind of sport that is rough on ur knees then there is really nothing you can do to make your recovery process faster, pretty much nothing you can do besides go by the book and get your REHAB done! Take it seriously, push yourself but be smart when doing so. You don't want to ignore the doctors on this one. When they say don't run till week 5-6 then don't fu*king run till then! As for lifting, say hello to the plain old bar squats cuz you aint gonna be adding any weight for awhile. Even when you are cleared by a physical therapist you're going to need to remember what they were showing you, make that a part of your everyday life. Keep doing them. IT WILL HELP. I PROMISE. I am 14 months out and I still cant kneel down on it. My thigh is still not the same size as my other one so if you think this is going to be a 4-5 month process then you aren't gonna be happy. Trust me. I Know I sound like a broken record but again....

DO YOUR REHAB!!

[Cruz0528]

First of all. That sucks! I did the same about 14 months ago and let me tell you all about it. hopefully this will help you. DO YOUR REHAB! DO YOUR REHAB!

NO SHORT CUTS ON REHAB!

First of all. The ACL is a ligament NOT a muscle.... so NOTHING you take is going to make your ACL & MCL stronger faster. now you can strengthen the muscles around it but again that's not going to affect the recovery process at all! people say that the rehab is the worst part of the ACL recovery process which is partly true but honestly the worst part comes after the rehab when you start feel 100% About 3-5 months out is where it gets tricky because your knee is going to start feeling really good, like maybe so good that you think ur a freak of nature and your ACL healed faster than Adrian Peterson's did. I promise thats not the case. It still needs time to heal. No matter what you take to make ur leg/knee stronger, its still not going to make that ligament any stronger. If anything, making those muscles to big around it could possibly be bad on that ACL because that ACL isn't going to grow like the muscles do. The bigger those muscles the stronger they pull on that ligament. Now I don't know what you do in your everyday life but if your an athlete and you play some kind of sport that is rough on ur knees then there is really nothing you can do to make your recovery process faster, pretty much nothing you can do besides go by the book and get your REHAB done! Take it seriously, push yourself but be smart when doing so. You don't want to ignore the doctors on this one. When they say don't run till week 5-6 then don't fu*king run till then! As for lifting, say hello to the plain old bar squats cuz you aint gonna be adding any weight for awhile. Even when you are cleared by a physical therapist you're going to need to remember what they were showing you, make that a part of your everyday life. Keep doing them. IT WILL HELP. I PROMISE. I am 14 months out and I still cant kneel down on it. My thigh is still not the same size as my other one so if you think this is going to be a 4-5 month process then you aren't gonna be happy. Trust me. I Know I sound like a broken record but again....

DO YOUR REHAB!!

You are right about the rehab. I tore my right Acl 5 years ago and went through the process. I have been reading about people cycling to help with recovery but mostly only in muscle atrophy after surgery. I also read that GH can improve ligament and tendon recovery time. Trying to look at this from all aspects and views before I decide what I am going to do. I will also consult my physician. Completing the Rehab process is absolutely the most important part. Without doing that right nothing will help me. Thank you for your input, good stuff!

[bartman314]

i got sermorelin+ghrp from my trt provider, pm me if you want more details.

you can get peptides from a number of r&d sources, they are legal for labwork. ;-)

[bartman314]

oh... rehab is important. :-)

[jbeck229]

No problem. hope everything goes well.