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Parents...remember your kids are under more pressure than many previous generations. WAY TOO MUCH for adolescence to handle.
Watch the way you handle your kids---being too tough will not work.
Sad situation regardless.
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..., if this Clown were in my neighborhood...i might Kill Him !
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Last edited by tcw; 06-14-2015 at 06:45 AM.
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This girl had deeper issues obviously...... None the less.... I wouldn't have posted the video.
The issue is making a threat and then not following through. He probably made the threat..... She didnt believe him.... And then he actually followed through this time. Unfortunately..... This had to be the time
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Seems like the issue was way deeper than just the hair.
Honestly though, I would never punish my kids with something like this. Take away their phone, ipod or don't let them go out on Friday night.
Never know though, if this girl was that unstable, taking away phone privileges may have had same outcome. Nobody really knows.
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It said in the article the father didn't release the video. He gave the video to the daughter, then a third party released it.
I don't know. I'm a tough love kinda parent. I wouldn't have made a video, but i would have made a comment on it every time i saw her. Something to that effect. Until she admits (on her own) that she knew she messed up. Kids can be coerced into agreeing that that know they messed up, but getting them to admit it on their own goes much farther
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That can't be the sole reason this kid jumped off the bridge. That being said...
Cutting hair as a punishment just seems odd to me, especially for a little girl. Even 40 years ago that would have been odd. Posting a private video like this is just awful. I'm not and never will be a parent, so I guess I'll leave the "Poor Parenting" debate alone.
Back in my days as a kid, the girls were always handled with care and their punishments were tender. Boys on the other hand... well, we get the crap beat out of us. Good times.
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So many unknown details in that case - as I understand it, no one knows what she had done that she was being punished for. I'm sure that father is hurting, though. You would hate to think that the last interaction you had with your daughter before she killed herself was to shame and humiliate her (regardless of any good intentions).
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This generation is creating weak-minded soft kids..Sad but true..No way in hell she should kill herself because she was judged a little bit by her friends and others because of a video that nobody will give a f*ck about in 6 months from now...Sadly there are probably gonna be more regulations and stricter laws because of this incident if not yet it will occur again because of the weak generation and there will be more stricter laws about it...Bullying was one thing 20 years ago..Bullying is 10,000 things now.
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Wait, i thought SHE cut her hair?
Dang i gotta go read the article again
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it prob didn't help that in this day and age people are looking for any reason to down someone and talk s**t even if they have no idea what they are talking about, they do it just for fun
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Saw this in a movie the other day, think it was unfinished business.
Back in my day, you went to school and got teased until 3:30 and then you went to your normal life at home.
Today, kids wake up and go to school and they are teased until 3:30. At 3:30 they get home and they receive emails that bully them, they got to Twitter and see everyone is talking about the goofy haircut they had. They go to Instagram and some prick at school took a picture of their hair and there are 100 likes and 50 comments on how shitty it looks. They then go to their face book page and see a bunch of kids rude comments on it. If they are really unlucky, someone made a video of them and posted it on YouTube and it goes viral throughout their school. Even if they ignore all that crap, they can still get texts by people who got their number from someone else. You can ignore them but not without reading them first.
I agree that kids are a little more emotional now but you have to admit, it could really get out of hand and overwhelming for a young impressionable kid today. I'm thinking parents may actually have to take the time to get to know their kids and talk with them at the dinner table. Ask them how their day went or notice if something might be wrong.
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^^^^ I do this every single day. My daughter is only 3 1/2 but I ask her what happened at school, what she had for lunch, what she learned..... I'm involved as much as I can be.Originally Posted by Brett N
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* NAH....i ain't buying any BS excuses from the family on this one. It's painfully clear her BIGGEST issues came from HOME...NO DOUBT in my Mind.
* You don't ever publicly shame a child---EVER. You Teach Your child "values." Shame will come by itself if you've done your job. Shame is a very destructive emotion. Shame comes from within. Its an emotion based on value judgements. Its also an emotion that comes from "Guilt." (this would be too deep to get into here BUT, the bottom line is "You never publicly shame a child.") *If you want to see the results of what repeated shame does to a child, read the unauthorized biographies of some of our worst serial killers: ie: Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson, Ilen Warnos, etc.
* I'd be willing to bet this AHOLE dad, is skirting any responsibility for this tragedy. Many parents blame the schools, the peer groups, etc. WRONG. Its your kids----take responsibility for being a good parent. That means learn how to raise a Healthy child that grows into productive human being.
* She obviously had confidence issues...recipe for disaster while going through puberty.
* The very public act of cutting his daughters hair off---FOR THE WORLD TO SEE, was a symbolic POSTURE telling her and the world, that there was "something wrong with her." THAT'S NOT the right message to give to a child...(what a POS !).
* Step dad is obviously a Retart. WTF cuts his daughters hair off ? Young woman and their Hair ? ? ? Need i say more?
* The very act of cutting your child's hair is a demonstration to the child and THE WORLD that s/he is MARKED and defective. They used this technique in many tribes to shame Men and show domination over them. This was usually followed up by taking their women and in many cases... killing their family.
PS. I do volunteer work with kids from FLOCKED up homes like this. Its a very gratifying experience to KNOW that you've helped a young person OVERCOME big obstacle in their quest to become a valued member of society----as opposed to being just another VICTIM/stat on the busted page. HOWEVER, when i read stories like this...it makes me sick to my stomach. This type of BS just undermines all my work and efforts (and those of many others).
Our world is SCREWED up enough without Moron "Dads" like this in our midst. LIKE I SAID, if this "pea brained" ahole lived in my Hood, he be getting a visit from me. I'd make sure he left town...
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Last edited by tcw; 06-14-2015 at 07:38 PM.
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Everyone talks as if there is only ONE right way to raise a child and only ONE right way to discipline them. As if everyone should have ONE personality and ONE kid that is identical to the rest of the kids on earth.
Seriously, that is as closed minded as it gets.
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Kids that age are very emotional, unstable at best and it may have been any number of things that made her jump and the video may have only been a small part of it.
Yeah I'm not so keen on the whole video shamming but some times it's not such a bad thing. Cutting the hair???? Seems strange but we dont know all the details.
I agree with the statements where people say most parents dont follow through with punishment although in the video the dad had only warned her 2x so it looks like he follows through.
That is very close to where I am and my 2nd wife use to live right under that bridge on the water in a house boat and said there were jumpers on the hwy or into the water weekly.
Very very sad all the way around.
Last edited by lovbyts; 06-14-2015 at 11:27 PM.
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The child isn't the only one with "issues". Public shaming and humiliation is so 1800s.
There's always more to the story but that vid is a glimpse into life in that household. We really have no idea what goes on behind their walls.
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Definitely agree girly.
Makes me wonder if she was an only child or if there were any other siblings. Hopefully someone is looking into the matter a little more. Just because death is suicide does not mean there is nobody at fault.
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Rite Girly Q....1+1 = 2
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