E2 too high - going off cyc - now how to modify PCT?

[workerbee2]

Stats

Age- 32
Height- 5'10"
Weight- 185
BF%- <7%
Cyc Exp- Minimal
PCT Knowledge- Minimal
Training Exp- >10 years
Diet- Excellent
Program- 600 TestEnan for 12 weeks

I'm at the very end of my program and i just got my first on-cyc bloods (rookie error 1). My E2 is very high: 133.

It's totally my fault, as i didn't realize the importance of an estrog blocker while on cyc until recently (rookie error 2). Until very recently, i never had an estrog blocker. I started using arim at 0.25 a little over a week ago.

I"m GOING OFF test this week, and would like to get the E2 under control as quick as possible.

I planned to keep the arim for the first 2 weeks off-cyc while the test was flushing out, then stop arim and add clom|nolv (Austinite's newbie program exactly). Concerned that only a short burst of arim won't bring E2 down as I go into PCT

My question is this. Will i need to do anything different during PCT to bring the E2 levels down?

[mike198]

Stats Age- 32 Height- 5'10" Weight- 185 BF%- <7% Cyc Exp- Minimal PCT Knowledge- Minimal Training Exp- >10 years Diet- Excellent Program- 600 TestEnan for 12 weeks I'm at the very end of my program and i just got my first on-cyc bloods (rookie error 1). My E2 is very high: 133. It's totally my fault, as i didn't realize the importance of an estrog blocker while on cyc until recently (rookie error 2). Until very recently, i never had an estrog blocker. I started using arim at 0.25 a little over a week ago. I"m GOING OFF test this week, and would like to get the E2 under control as quick as possible. I planned to keep the arim for the first 2 weeks off-cyc while the test was flushing out, then stop arim and add clom|nolv (Austinite's newbie program exactly). Concerned that only a short burst of arim won't bring E2 down as I go into PCT My question is this. Will i need to do anything different during PCT to bring the E2 levels down?

You must have felt like utter garbage with an e2 that high. I feel spacey and unwell even when it goes slightly above range.

Did you finish the 12 weeks?

[workerbee2]

You must have felt like utter garbage with an e2 that high. I feel spacey and unwell even when it goes slightly above range.

Did you finish the 12 weeks?

I did finish it, but understand that the bloodwork wasn't until near the end.

Actually I don't feel too bad, but I would like some guidance about how to proceed. What's the best course of action?

[numbere]

I think that you should stay with the plan you outlined in your first post. Keep taking your dex for the next two weeks until PCT then discontinue AI and proceed with nolva and clomid therapy. Dex reaches peak concentration within hours. Using an AI during PCT puts you at risk for lowering e2 out of range.

[clarky.]

X2 ^^. Use your adex for the 2 wks up to pct starts then run your pct as planned.
Was it a e2 sensitive ?

[Back In Black]

Post a pic buddy. I'd like to see your sub 7% bodyfat.

[Juced_porkchop]

you want an AI , not an estrogen blocker ( SERMS ) on cycle, but now in PCT it will level out since test leaving body, continue with SERMS and do PCT, next time use an AI during cycle man. liek dex 0.25mg eod. geeze thats high estro man...

[workerbee2]

you want an AI , not an estrogen blocker ( SERMS ) on cycle, but now in PCT it will level out since test leaving body, continue with SERMS and do PCT, next time use an AI during cycle man. liek dex 0.25mg eod. geeze thats high estro man...

First--- thanks everyone for feedback.

Clarky-- yes, E2 sensitive, following exact "comprehensive" guidelines from the Educational Forum for getting complete bloods thru Personalabs & PrivateMD

Porkchop--- thanks for the clarification, and i will do exactly that

Back in black--- i gather you're skeptical about my bodyfat, but i'm new here, so that's ok. Here's a pic



Everyone--- is it generally agreed that by following the PCT exactly per austinite's beginner protocol, that the E2 will level out to normal without additional add-ins, like Aromasin?

[clarky.]

Imo you should start adex at .25 oed till pct starts to get this e2 sorted then run pct as you said.
Clomid 75,50,50,50
Nolva 40,20,20,20

[Back In Black]

most people come here and claim much lower bodyfat that they truly are. Difficult to tell from that one pic but here is an idea of sub 7% and you don't look it in the pic you posted, lean yes, but not sub 7%. Of course that could just be the pic. How were you tested?