Test e and test p

[xray2606]

Right I bet you here this a lot but I have a mate lol who is using 1ml of test e and 1ml of test p twice a week he is on week 5 of his cycle and his gains as been huge!! Now I've heard of front loading with prop for first 3-4 weeks and last few weeks but as any one else run this type of cycle before?

[xray2606]

Right I bet you here this a lot but I have a mate lol who is using 1ml of test e and 1ml of test p twice a week he is on week 5 of his cycle and his gains as been huge!! Now I've heard of front loading with prop for first 3-4 weeks and last few weeks but as any one else run this type of cycle before?

come on guys I need an answer lol I start my 12 week test e cycle this week and just really wondering if it would hurt to include prop in? I understand the that prop kicks in faster so I'm thinking of just front loading for first four week but would probably do this eod tbh not with the enth, HELP LOL

[redz]

This is a very poor injection schedule for test prop it needs to be ran eod at the minimum.

[redz]

Using it the first 4 weeks eod is fine.

[xray2606]

This is what I thought and have read all over the internet bro but he says he's not that bothered about injecting every day or every other day!! Lol ( ***** I know) but doing 1ml of each mixed twice a week and his gains has been massive bro unbelievable tbh but I can't find anything on this or any one that's done it for full cycle, I've just had my first shot of enth today but it's just got me wondering bro that's all, because I have sum prop but I have always been put off it with the injection frequency I'm bad enough twice a week lol

[redz]

Yeah I ran prop once before and it is far more noticable. The frequent injections are not my favorite though.

[bigdil511]

This is what I thought and have read all over the internet bro but he says he's not that bothered about injecting every day or every other day!! Lol ( ***** I know) but doing 1ml of each mixed twice a week and his gains has been massive bro unbelievable tbh but I can't find anything on this or any one that's done it for full cycle, I've just had my first shot of enth today but it's just got me wondering bro that's all, because I have sum prop but I have always been put off it with the injection frequency I'm bad enough twice a week lol

If you're worried about frequent injections prop is not for you as the half life is small and is needed eod injections. If you do it infrequently it's not going to be as effective.

[xray2606]

Right just for arguments sake I do my 1ml of each mixed on Monday 1 ml of prop on Wednesday and then a mixed shot on Thursday, then miss till the following Monday, if I do this for first four weeks then go back to just enth till say week 10 then see my last few weeks through with the prop at the same levels again, this is what I've read else where as a kick start and also the prop helps when pct starts???? This right? It's just baffled me how much gains and strength increase he's had in five weeks :/

[Wizwell]

5 weeks and his gains are HUGE?

[redz]

You need to do every 2nd day.

[xray2606]

Honestly bro if his gains hadn't been so good it wouldn't have bothered me but his strength and size as increased a lot bud no shit if I get chance tomoz I'll get a pick of him

[xray2606]

So Monday mix, Wednesday prop Thursday enth Friday and Sunday prop? Redz?

[redz]

Yeah but then it rotates the next week.

[redz]

Personally I would just adjust the long ester Test to fit on prop days.

[xray2606]

**** that redz too many pins in that for me lol even for just four weeks lol al stick to my enth I get good gains from just 2ml a week it just takes ages to kick in like 4-5 week in my case, what's the best oral to run along side enth for faster results?

[xray2606]

Personally I would just adjust the long ester Test to fit on prop days.

what would that even work out at bro 0.5 ml with every ml of prop that just off the top of my head by the way lol

[pitweiler]

Your dose would stay the same. If your using 1ml of each, then that's what you will be using. Regardless if they fall on the same day or not. FYI, it's better to understand if you refer to how many MGs your using instead of MLs. Just because each vial can be dosed differently. I'm guessing your using 250mg vial of test E and 100 mgs of test P?

[Mr.BB]

I like to use prop at the end of cycle so you dont feel the testosterone drop while the enanthate dissipates, then you can start PCT 3 days after last pin.

Regarding your friend results he either eats more than you, or his genetics are better, 1ml prop per week is nothing.

[xray2606]

I like to use prop at the end of cycle so you dont feel the testosterone drop while the enanthate dissipates, then you can start PCT 3 days after last pin. Regarding your friend results he either eats more than you, or his genetics are better, 1ml prop per week is nothing.

cheers bro and as for my mate I can't understand it dude he does one ml of test e 250 and 1 ml of prop 100 on a Monday and then same on a Thursday, he used to get bad pain from the enth so someone told him to mix it prop to make it easier ( I don't understand this either) but it's seemed to work and I have to admitt the boy can lift but we did a cycle of enth on its own a few months back and my gains where better than his!!! But this time I had to wait because of family commitments and he's done this lol cheers for all your help guys

[Ashop]

This is a very poor injection schedule for test prop it needs to be ran eod at the minimum.

Agreed. Definitely not running the TEST PROP the optimal way.

[xray2606]

He's doing 1ml of each 3 times a week not 2 like I stated above. Mon, wed, Friday all I can say is it seems to be working but that's up to him. I've decided to do a prop kick start for 3 or 4 week pinning eod just to see what gains are like then drop back onto just enth till last 2 week of cycle, i did my first test e 250 yesterday, and a 1ml shot of prop 100 today so I'm ready to do mixed shot of each come Thursday the prop on Sunday I'm going to stick to this for 3 week a think maybe four if gains are good, so that's sorted, but I have two questions I've had test flu symtoms today after enth yesterday is b12 tabs any good to combat this? And at wat dose? 2nd with running two tests together would I be better of taking somthing to combat sides? I've never had no proplems with enth but I'm stepping it up a notch and don't want to get caught out if ya what I mean. any help is greatly received guys

[xray2606]

??? Nobody on tonight :/ lol or am I just boring lol

[xray2606]

I like to use prop at the end of cycle so you dont feel the testosterone drop while the enanthate dissipates, then you can start PCT 3 days after last pin. Regarding your friend results he either eats more than you, or his genetics are better, 1ml prop per week is nothing.

He's doing 1ml of each 3 times a week not 2 like I stated above. Mon, wed, Friday all I can say is it seems to be working but that's up to him. I've decided to do a prop kick start for 3 or 4 week pinning eod just to see what gains are like then drop back onto just enth till last 2 week of cycle, i did my first test e 250 yesterday, and a 1ml shot of prop 100 today so I'm ready to do mixed shot of each come Thursday the prop on Sunday I'm going to stick to this for 3 week a think maybe four if gains are good, so that's sorted, but I have two questions I've had test flu symtoms today after enth yesterday is b12 tabs any good to combat this? And at wat dose? 2nd with running two tests together would I be better of taking somthing to combat sides? I've never had no proplems with enth but I'm stepping it up a notch and don't want to get caught out if ya what I mean. any help is greatly received guys

[Mr.BB]

He's doing 1ml of each 3 times a week not 2 like I stated above. Mon, wed, Friday all I can say is it seems to be working but that's up to him.

You realize thats over 1gr ot test per week?!?!

What is your age and stats?

B12 tabs are useless to test flu, take some paracetamol.

[NACH3]

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He's doing 1ml of each 3 times a week not 2 like I stated above. Mon, wed, Friday all I can say is it seems to be working but that's up to him. I've decided to do a prop kick start for 3 or 4 week pinning eod just to see what gains are like then drop back onto just enth till last 2 week of cycle, i did my first test e 250 yesterday, and a 1ml shot of prop 100 today so I'm ready to do mixed shot of each come Thursday the prop on Sunday I'm going to stick to this for 3 week a think maybe four if gains are good, so that's sorted, but I have two questions I've had test flu symtoms today after enth yesterday is b12 tabs any good to combat this? And at wat dose? 2nd with running two tests together would I be better of taking somthing to combat sides? I've never had no proplems with enth but I'm stepping it up a notch and don't want to get caught out if ya what I mean. any help is greatly received guys

Why aren't you mixing your tests together for ONE pin instead of two??

I personally love prop! I'd rather inject ed and keep the volume of oil down and it's a more consitant approach as far as eod rotations(4 one wk 3 the next) imo it's easier for me and I don't mind pinning ed!

But your making for more pins when you can combine your test e and prop together 2x wkly... And you did say your starting the test e from the beginning so it builds up in your system?

Please tell me your not under 24-25??

[KA24]

So essentially he's running 750 mg of E and 300 mg of P each week. It's not completely ridiculous but it's also not something a person should do unless their far more experienced or wanting to compete for something. That would be a very expensive cycle if he's running that for 12 weeks, and AI, HCG and a long PCT.

[ProStatus]

So essentially he's running 750 mg of E and 300 mg of P each week. It's not completely ridiculous but it's also not something a person should do unless their far more experienced or wanting to compete for something. That would be a very expensive cycle if he's running that for 12 weeks, and AI, HCG and a long PCT.

The food is the expensive part. lmao

[xray2606]

I'm Why aren't you mixing your tests together for ONE pin instead of two?? I personally love prop! I'd rather inject ed and keep the volume of oil down and it's a more consitant approach as far as eod rotations(4 one wk 3 the next) imo it's easier for me and I don't mind pinning ed! But your making for more pins when you can combine your test e and prop together 2x wkly... And you did say your starting the test e from the beginning so it builds up in your system? Please tell me your not under 24-25??

....... 31 bro but I am a novice to aas tbh only done one cycle before I've just hit a wall with naturally training

[xray2606]

So essentially he's running 750 mg of E and 300 mg of P each week. It's not completely ridiculous but it's also not something a person should do unless their far more experienced or wanting to compete for something. That would be a very expensive cycle if he's running that for 12 weeks, and AI, HCG and a long PCT.

yeah he's been at it a while but don't think this would do me any good for second cycle would it lol

[xray2606]

So essentially he's running 750 mg of E and 300 mg of P each week. It's not completely ridiculous but it's also not something a person should do unless their far more experienced or wanting to compete for something. That would be a very expensive cycle if he's running that for 12 weeks, and AI, HCG and a long PCT.

with out saying two much he's got endless supply so price doesn't really matter to him wish I was in same boat lol

[NACH3]

....... 31 bro but I am a novice to aas tbh only done one cycle before I've just hit a wall with naturally training

Hey your here... And you'll get the proper and safest advice here! So much info at your fingertips here...

[xray2606]

You realize thats over 1gr ot test per week?!?! What is your age and stats? B12 tabs are useless to test flu, take some paracetamol.

my stats are nothing like his I'm just after quicker results to be honest am av been taking paracetamol and ibuafen today just to take edge off but felt fine in gym lol my stats are 31 year old 5ft 11 and just over 11 stone BMi 21. Sumat last time I checked, I made a **** up on last cycle of enth I made great gains but didn't use any pct so lost a lot to be fair at least that's what I put it down to :/

[xray2606]

Hey your here... And you'll get the proper and safest advice here! So much info at your fingertips here...

I train like a mofo bro but I know my biggest problem is my diet I need to get that in order I know I should av done this before starting but I'm hitting 3000 cals a day so not far off where I want to be

[xray2606]

I'm Why aren't you mixing your tests together for ONE pin instead of two?? I personally love prop! I'd rather inject ed and keep the volume of oil down and it's a more consitant approach as far as eod rotations(4 one wk 3 the next) imo it's easier for me and I don't mind pinning ed! But your making for more pins when you can combine your test e and prop together 2x wkly... And you did say your starting the test e from the beginning so it builds up in your system? Please tell me your not under 24-25??

what would I mix it at and how many times a week would I pin?

[xray2606]

what would I mix it at and how many times a week would I pin?

I'm new to this front loading bussiness's and av only run test e on its own what would I use to combat any sides from the amount of test and then pct, I'd rather ask on here because if you ask in gym you get told a load of bs IMO everybody thinks threre an expert lol