SO after running Tren is every other compound chill?

[thehor]

I ran trenbolone acetate with test p and anavar last year in spring and I had some serious gains along with some serious side effects. Now I have been on test p and npp for about 4 weeks and I feel like this stuff is taking a while to kick in and I have some weak side effects. Is this Normal? I mean I know tren is like stronger but not that strong.

[clarky.]

It's only 4 wks if you have everything under control you should not have harsh side effects it will run smoothly. You can still get some bad sides from other compounds but imo nothing like tren. Tren is harsh even when everything is in order (bloods) as in sweats ,sleeping ,cardio ect ect.

[thehor]

I am with you with tren being as harsh as it gets. I coudn't even sleep on it at all and I sleep like a baby on this stack. I was also very angry most of the time on tren and on this stack I am so chill.

[Juced_porkchop]

I ran trenbolone acetate with test p and anavar last year in spring and I had some serious gains along with some serious side effects. Now I have been on test p and npp for about 4 weeks and I feel like this stuff is taking a while to kick in and I have some weak side effects. Is this Normal? I mean I know tren is like stronger but not that strong.

Iv used tren over the years. i prefer test only cycles or test and var or test and maste. i also dont expect much first few weeks , wether short or long ester. give it some time IMO

[Iron-56]

Well cycles seem to yield less and less gains simply becuase you are approaching you genetic limit. I remember reading a great article on AAS tolerance buildup. Let me try to find it for you.

[redz]

Tren is king, cycling without it is very different once you have experienced it.

[NACH3]

Tren is king, cycling without it is very different once you have experienced it.

Why IMO it's best to grow into your cycles regardless of how many one has ran! I've not run tren yet but it's b/c nandrolone is still giving me good results with much less sides!

What were you running your NPP at? In 4wks you should start seeing changes - I love short esters - are you still running this cycle or are you done?

[thehor]

I'm running it at 300mg and test at 400mg. I am feeling it now but its nothing like tren. I ran tren at 300mg and by week 2 I was killing it.

[thehor]

Also I only ran tren for 9 weeks because the side effects got completely harsh and a buddie of mine that had been on it for years passed away. I was trying to go 10 weeks but I couldnt breath right by the 9th week. It was such a relief dropping tren at the time, I stayed on test p for another week then waited a few day for pct.

[NACH3]

I'm running it at 300mg and test at 400mg. I am feeling it now but its nothing like tren. I ran tren at 300mg and by week 2 I was killing it.

Though I haven't run tren yet - I think nothing will compare to that compound(it's very harsh & some compound - the best I hear - but the highest sides to gains ratio too) but NPP my first run w/it I ran it at 420ish and prop 600(my BW was through the roof - 12,522ng/dl on that dose! Crazy high! But I think you can run it at least at 400 - my next run will be around 550ish w/test around the same(maybe 700 but from what I've gathered 600+ prop is just about the equivalent or close to the long esters) I'll see for myself soon

I hear that all the time about the breathing etc on tren and how hard it is to run it for long periods(at least one whose new to the game)

[NACH3]

I'm running it at 300mg and test at 400mg. I am feeling it now but its nothing like tren. I ran tren at 300mg and by week 2 I was killing it.

300mgs of tren is = to 1500mgs of test... NPP isn't close to trens anabolic:androgenic ratio... Test is 1:1 - tren 5:5 - nandrolone 1:80% of 1

[kelkel]

a buddie of mine that had been on it for years passed away.

Years?

[thehor]

Though I haven't run tren yet - I think nothing will compare to that compound(it's very harsh & some compound - the best I hear - but the highest sides to gains ratio too) but NPP my first run w/it I ran it at 420ish and prop 600(my BW was through the roof - 12,522ng/dl on that dose! Crazy high! But I think you can run it at least at 400 - my next run will be around 550ish w/test around the same(maybe 700 but from what I've gathered 600+ prop is just about the equivalent or close to the long esters) I'll see for myself soon

I hear that all the time about the breathing etc on tren and how hard it is to run it for long periods(at least one whose new to the game)

Cardio and ten is the worst man. I couldnt even have a good session of sex let alone jog for a while without feeling I was gassed out. Thats just a common tren side effect the real bad once come later on. On test the more you are on it the more the sides fade but on the ttren the more on it the worst I started to feel.

[thehor]

Years?

Yea he was abusing the compound for a few years none stop and was doing drugs like pain killers and cocaine along with it. He got a cardiac arrest.

[kelkel]

Yea he was abusing the compound for a few years none stop and was doing drugs like pain killers and cocaine along with it. He got a cardiac arrest.

Not surprised at all. Wow.

[thehor]

Not surprised at all. Wow.

Yea, honestly I dont understand how people could get addicted to tren, I found the sides are far worst than the gain I got. Dont get me wrong yes in my opinion so far it has been the best cycle I have used as far as gains go but the side effects are just to bad. I almost didnt want to ever cycle again because of the side effects.

[redz]

Funny I love term and sides aren't an issue for me even at high doses. Clen on the other hand is terrible for me even at low dose.

[thehor]

Funny I love term and sides aren't an issue for me even at high doses. Clen on the other hand is terrible for me even at low dose.

I dont even want to touch clen. I already have anxiety s it is lol.

[thehor]

Do you guys think I should step up my npp too 400mg and my test to 500mg? Or keep it as it is?