Is this how I'm supposed to feel on test enanthate?

[fitness95]

Hey everyone, I started my test e cycle a few weeks ago, I've done 7 pins, I'm currently at the start of week 4.

I have naturally low test and I felt strength gains in week 2. Now at week 4, bench has increased by 3 reps, dumbell presses by 3 reps, deadlift by 3 reps, it feels AMAZING when I'm at the gym!

However, outside of the gym, I feel like garbage. Here are my symptoms:

-Feeling hot randomly during the day (kind of fever like but with no elevation in temp)
(blood pressure is 122/60)

-Feeling sleepy during the day (not at the gym), wanting to nap, waking up late

- Sex drive is not up, I get erections but they don't last as long as they used to, in fact, I feel like sex drive has gone down.

Now, I've heard the feeling hot and lethargy can be normal but the sex drive is what has me worried. I took 25mg aromasin during week 2 for 5 days. I have bloodwork scheduled for tomorrow so we'll see if E2 is too high or too low (I know people state crashing E2 with a-sin is hard to do).



Is the feeling hot and lethargic feeling normal? I always thought that test made people feel like superman, ready to wake up and get to work, and feel good all the time. I feel tired sleepy and hot.

[Fetch]

The body temp thing happens. Sex drive should definitely be higher. Just based off what you've said here, it sounds like an E2 issue. Are you getting any joint pain? For me, that's a dead giveaway that my Estrogen is out of whack.

[DrewZ]

to better help you it would help to know your current stats; age/height/weight/bodyfat/lifting experience/cycle experience

and layout your current cycle exactly how you are doing it, including AI's, HCG, Frequency of shots, and dosages.

[PrettyPlease?]

I suspect an estrogen issue as well.

How many mg/week and how frequently are you pinning?

[NACH3]

if you only ran your AI for wk 2 as written see below

I'd bet $$$ that your E2 is elevated from not using an AI - start taking 6.25mgs every 12hrs - and pull bloods in about 2wks... That'll give you at least something to go off of - and don't change the dose until BW is in that's why we do BW at the mid way mark(to make any adjustments needed)

HCG?

[king6 II]

Your profile says age 26 however, experience say when there is a two digit number in the avy name it is usually the birth year which would make you 20. Just be honest, no hard feelings one way or the other, we will help you out regardless.

[fitness95]

The body temp thing happens. Sex drive should definitely be higher. Just based off what you've said here, it sounds like an E2 issue. Are you getting any joint pain? For me, that's a dead giveaway that my Estrogen is out of whack.

My knees have been hurting when I do squats and go below parallel. I was afraid I may have nuked my levels but I'm not sure because the sides of high and low are basically the same.

[fitness95]

if you only ran your AI for wk 2 as written see below

I'd bet $$$ that your E2 is elevated from not using an AI - start taking 6.25mgs every 12hrs - and pull bloods in about 2wks... That'll give you at least something to go off of - and don't change the dose until BW is in that's why we do BW at the mid way mark(to make any adjustments needed)

HCG?

My knees hurt and I haven't gained a pound yet (not even water retention) so I'm not sure if it's high or low so I dropped the AI. I have bloods tomorrow and if estradiol comes in high I'll add in aromasin and dose it according to the estradiol level. If it comes in low, then I guess I have to play the waiting game.

[fitness95]

to better help you it would help to know your current stats; age/height/weight/bodyfat/lifting experience/cycle experience

and layout your current cycle exactly how you are doing it, including AI's, HCG, Frequency of shots, and dosages.

20 5"11 177lb 11% body fat no cycles before, 3 years lifting lifts have doubled and I've put on ~50lb of muscle since I've started but plateau'd hard. Did a blood test and found out I had a test level of 312 (idiopathic) so I began a cycle.


500mg a week I do 250mg Sunday morning 250mg Wednesday evening. No AI currently but I did do aromasin for 25mg ED for a week. No HCG currently, doing NAC for liver support and taking nolvadex at 20mg until I dial in on a-sin dosage. Don't want to risk gyno (as I have a under my nip from a while back without cycling because of my low test and high estraidol, was 39 naturally). Can't tell if estro is high or low so I'm running nolva until I dial in on AI dosage.

[fitness95]

Your profile says age 26 however, experience say when there is a two digit number in the avy name it is usually the birth year which would make you 20. Just be honest, no hard feelings one way or the other, we will help you out regardless.

Yes, I'm 20 years old, I put the age in too quick because I kept messing up on the confirmation security code and when I finally got it right, I forgot to put age in I didn't know it was even viewable publicly, I apologize.

I'm 20, started lifting at 17, been fit for entire life. Have low test, unrelated to thyroid or hypogonadism. Started test, feel great in gym but like crap outside.

[king6 II]

Your profile says age 26 however, experience say when there is a two digit number in the avy name it is usually the birth year which would make you 20. Just be honest, no hard feelings one way or the other, we will help you out regardless.

20 5"11 177lb 11% body fat no cycles before, 3 years lifting lifts have doubled and I've put on ~50lb of muscle since I've started but plateau'd hard. Did a blood test and found out I had a test level of 312 (idiopathic) so I began a cycle.




500mg a week I do 250mg Sunday morning 250mg Wednesday evening. No AI currently but I did do aromasin for 25mg ED for a week. No HCG currently, doing NAC for liver support and taking nolvadex at 20mg until I dial in on a-sin dosage. Don't want to risk gyno (as I have a under my nip from a while back without cycling because of my low test and high estraidol, was 39 naturally). Can't tell if estro is high or low so I'm running nolva until I dial in on AI dosage.

I should be a private eye......You are quite young for a cycle, have you gone to a doc to discuss TRT?

[fitness95]

I should be a private eye......You are quite young for a cycle, have you gone to a doc to discuss TRT?

I did, he said TRT will only lead to Long Term Troubles lol. I don't understand the difference between someone natrually making 900 test a week or making 900 by pinning 100-125mg a week apart from shutting off your own production. Would there be heart/bp/prostate problems just because you're pinning?

Only side I was worried of for being on TRT was infertility but he didn't even consider it for me. I wanted to run the test and see if my life really would improve or if it was hyped. So far I feel just more tired, hot, and stronger in the gym lol.

[fitness95]

I should be a private eye......You are quite young for a cycle, have you gone to a doc to discuss TRT?

One more question, will size increase later on? I've had strength gains for 2 weeks (probably kicked in earlier since I have low test) but I have gained 0 pounds so far. It won't just be strength the entire time, right? Strength always happens before size increase?

[PrettyPlease?]

One more question, will size increase later on? I've had strength gains for 2 weeks (probably kicked in earlier since I have low test) but I have gained 0 pounds so far. It won't just be strength the entire time, right? Strength always happens before size increase?

You should at least be experiencing an increase in size due to water and increased glycogen storage. Have you increased your calories. Strength gains but no size usually indicates insufficient calories.

[fitness95]

You should at least be experiencing an increase in size due to water and increased glycogen storage. Have you increased your calories. Strength gains but no size usually indicates insufficient calories.

Yeah, used to eat 3500 now I'm at 3800. I'll up it to 4200 soon. I was going to do 4200 during week 5-6 when it kicks in, didn't want to risk gaining fat right now but I think there's enough test in my system to prevent fat gain at that caloric intake.

[fitness95]

my friend just hit me up and I think the sides I'm feeling are from nolvadex (which I was taking 20mg for two weeks). I looked up tamoxifen sides in males and it came up as:

Loss in drive (check)
Hot flashes (check)
Sweating at night (check)

Blood work is still tomorrow, I'll see how E2 is doing. No more nolva, too bad the half life is 5-7 days.

Lesson learned: The less compounds you put in the better. Start with less and add in if necessary.

[Frontpump]

my friend just hit me up and I think the sides I'm feeling are from nolvadex (which I was taking 20mg for two weeks). I looked up tamoxifen sides in males and it came up as:

Loss in drive (check)
Hot flashes (check)
Sweating at night (check)

Blood work is still tomorrow, I'll see how E2 is doing. No more nolva, too bad the half life is 5-7 days.

Lesson learned: The less compounds you put in the better. Start with less and add in if necessary.

Interesting because tamoxifen make me horny as ****. Sex with the lady was amazing. I wouldn't say better than while on Test, but definitely not worse. Different. More Sensitive. Also makes my balls feel like they'll explode. So big they hurt. (first test cycle only. on my second cycle added deca and the effects were nearly non-existent.)

Noone else seems to have had this experience.

Not ruling it out, everybody is different. It's possible you respond otherwise.