eating timing

[tice1212]

Hey boys starting weight
my tdee is 3100
I was at 2920 for 4 weeks
Then I dropped it to 2700 the last 7 days

WeightTraining 5 days a week. Strength has went up since this cut.
Cardio every day 65+ a day low intensity
Two active rest days 130mins low intensity cardio (elliptical )

So I have been at 190 since I started my Marco numbers are
Calories :2700
Fat:75
Protein:245
Carbs: 265

Diet is pretty clean honestly . Chinese food once on Fridays but never past my calories @2700

I'm on the new MK-677 & CJC-1295 DAC cycle.

Now I know I can't be gaining muscle on a calorie deficiency.

So I think maybe timing in my food is off

These are rough numbers
3am 450cal
Back to sleep
8am eat 350cal
Weight train 75mins + 65 cardio
12pm eat 700cal
3pm eat 350cal
Cardio 30+ or train again
7pm eat 900cal
Repeat
Am I eating to much before bed? Should I cut out my 3am meal?

The only reason I eat so early is because it makes me fall back to sleep and in a deeper sleep.


Help.

[kelkel]

What's your goal Tice?
Why sooo much cardio?

[tice1212]

What's your goal Tice?
Why sooo much cardio?

Lmao u know kelkel I guess my goal is to stay around 190lbs but drop some of this extra lbs.
I'm at 190lbs in this picture. Bf%10? Idk what do u think?

I would like to get back to this but I was only 172lbs around 7%bf


So my goal would be to look like my second picture but at 185-190

[tarmyg]

7 days on those numbers is not enough. Give it 2-3 weeks and then drop another 100kcal/day. It's a slow process but if you have the patience dropping slowly like that it will keep you in much better spirit, trust me!

[tice1212]

7 days on those numbers is not enough. Give it 2-3 weeks and then drop another 100kcal/day. It's a slow process but if you have the patience dropping slowly like that it will keep you in much better spirit, trust me!

Yeah I guess thought it was weird that my tdee is 3100 and I was at 2920 for four weeks the. Dropped it down again this week and my weight is still at 190lbs. Plus with all the cardio.. Just figured the scale would have moved a little. But nothing lol.. I feel like I'm cutting up but idk. Really weird to tell u the truth. 65+mins a day and still the same weight. Crazy

[tarmyg]

Yeah I guess thought it was weird that my tdee is 3100 and I was at 2920 for four weeks the. Dropped it down again this week and my weight is still at 190lbs. Plus with all the cardio.. Just figured the scale would have moved a little. But nothing lol.. I feel like I'm cutting up but idk. Really weird to tell u the truth. 65+mins a day and still the same weight. Crazy

Start taking other measurments than the scale, pictures and the simplest, a measuring tape across the "fat" areas.

[tice1212]

Start taking other measurments than the scale, pictures and the simplest, a measuring tape across the "fat" areas.

Wow what a dumbas$ I am. I forgot the tape measure for the midsection lol.. Thanks for the reminder bro.

So just to make sure meal timing doesn't matter as long as my over all calories are in a deficiency?

[AR's King Silabolin]

Yo tice....what happened to your sarms log?

[tice1212]

Yo tice....what happened to your sarms log?

U know bro I should finish that up with a final conclusion. Thanks for the reminder. I'll go do that right now

[tice1212]

Yo tice....what happened to your sarms log?

Its up brother.

[tarmyg]

Wow what a dumbas$ I am. I forgot the tape measure for the midsection lol.. Thanks for the reminder bro.

So just to make sure meal timing doesn't matter as long as my over all calories are in a deficiency?

Correct, zero difference for meal timing!

[tice1212]

Correct, zero difference for meal timing!

Awesome thanks bro! Because I really didn't want to get rid of the 3am meal because the sleep after eating that is amazing!! To say the least. Lol

[RaginCajun]

only benefit i see in meal timing if one was doing an endurance event or training for long periods of time. other than that, no difference at all

[kelkel]

Tice I think you should change goals and focus on adding some LBM. I think you're prone to being naturally lean and cut and adding some more pounds of muscle would make a dramatic difference in your physique without losing much of your definition. I think you'd like how you'd look and feel.

[RaginCajun]

Tice I think you should change goals and focus on adding some LBM. I think you're prone to being naturally lean and cut and adding some more pounds of muscle would make a dramatic difference in your physique without losing much of your definition. I think you'd like how you'd look and feel.

he needs to visit Marcus' Diary

[tice1212]

Tice I think you should change goals and focus on adding some LBM. I think you're prone to being naturally lean and cut and adding some more pounds of muscle would make a dramatic difference in your physique without losing much of your definition. I think you'd like how you'd look and feel.

Its funny that u say this because I just asked my sister last night if I should keep trying to get lean or just get bigger. Her response was "you're already lean!" So kelkeli think ur right bro. Thank you.

[tice1212]

he needs to visit Marcus' Diary

Really!? I have to check it out then bro. Thank you

[tice1212]

Also guys what do u think my bf% is from these couple of pictures
Like I said before I'm 5'9 @ 190lbs after my morning piss

[kelkel]

Its funny that u say this because I just asked my sister last night if I should keep trying to get lean or just get bigger. Her response was "you're already lean!" So kelkeli think ur right bro. Thank you.

Well, I always see in your posts all the cardio and dieting and wondered why. Imagine yourself with 10-15 more pounds of muscle and still good definition. It's a win-win. Hell, if you just cut your cardio in half you'd probably see gains.

he needs to visit Marcus' Diary

Yes. He may not recognize himself in a year...

[SandraGa]

I think you can increase the cal intake in morning diet a bit and take that extra amount out from your evening diet.

[Back In Black]

Fully agree with Kel. Half your cardio, 30-40 mins PWO and maybe even drop the cardio on rest days altogether. Keep cals where they are see what happens.

I agree that meal timing is, for the most part, irrelevant but not entirely. I'd hate to train on an empty stomach and I'd hate not to take something pretty much immediately PWO.

[tice1212]

Well, I always see in your posts all the cardio and dieting and wondered why. Imagine yourself with 10-15 more pounds of muscle and still good definition. It's a win-win. Hell, if you just cut your cardio in half you'd probably see gains.

Yeah bro i feel like ur right. I guess its just hard for me to eat more because I was a fat kid and don't want to get fat lol its all in my head.

Yes. He may not recognize himself in a year...

Really it was that big of a difference. I really have to check this out now.

[tice1212]

Fully agree with Kel. Half your cardio, 30-40 mins PWO and maybe even drop the cardio on rest days altogether. Keep cals where they are see what happens.

I agree that meal timing is, for the most part, irrelevant but not entirely. I'd hate to train on an empty stomach and I'd hate not to take something pretty much immediately PWO.

That's what I will do then. Glad to see everyone throwing in their 2¢ it really helps me make this process easier to change over.

[tice1212]

I think you can increase the cal intake in morning diet a bit and take that extra amount out from your evening diet.

Yeah I think ur right on that bro. I noticed that once I wrote it. That I was eating more before bed. And in should eat a little more on my second meal to fuel my workouts.