Opinions on my lab test?

[Alias26]

I recently had my own labs done and these were the results.
Based on my research, my test is extremely low for being 18.

I went to the doc and was told that my levels are normal and that the low T3 means nothing.
I find that really hard to believe that 198 ng/dl is normal for an 18 year old. Thoughts?

[jasondd1]

I recently had my own labs done and these were the results.
Based on my research, my test is extremely low for being 18.

I went to the doc and was told that my levels are normal and that the low T3 means nothing.
I find that really hard to believe that 198 ng/dl is normal for an 18 year old. Thoughts?

Find a new Doc. Your numbers are way off. My dad is 70 years old and his test is 610 ng/dl.

Your thyroid is way off too. You need a doc that knows what he's doing

[djgreen]

yep you need a new doc

[Alias26]

Find a new Doc. Your numbers are way off. My dad is 70 years old and his test is 610 ng/dl.

Your thyroid is way off too. You need a doc that knows what he's doing

Thanks for the response. He seems to be getting caught up in the reference intervals. So he's saying it's normal. He is also saying that I'm fine because I have hair in my face and legs.
He gave me a speech about that not everyone can look like Arnold, idk why though, he's must be thinking I only want it for recreation.
Any tips on finding a good one?

[Xphanial]

Your doctor needs a good slap .......
Find Someone that's going to help.

[djgreen]

just look around your town you should find someone with some sense but TRT should be last resort you need to find out why you have low levels and try to fix it first because TRT for the rest of your life isn't fun

[bass]

I agree with the above.

[Alias26]

just look around your town you should find someone with some sense but TRT should be last resort you need to find out why you have low levels and try to fix it first because TRT for the rest of your life isn't fun

If you run trt with hcg can't you come off of it if you wanted to?

[djgreen]

no TRT is for life

[bullshark99]

You really want to be careful here Alias, 18 is young to be messing with your hormones. I do agree though 198 is not normal.

[Alias26]

You really want to be careful here Alias, 18 is young to be messing with your hormones. I do agree though 198 is not normal.

So do you think I should just try to ignore it for a while? What do you think is a good age?

[bigdil511]

So do you think I should just try to ignore it for a while? What do you think is a good age?

No he is saying try to find out the cause before you go onto trt. It's a lifelong commitment and because you are so young it's gonna be a long time for you.

[reporich]

Get a GOOD Dr!

[Alias26]

No he is saying try to find out the cause before you go onto trt. It's a lifelong commitment and because you are so young it's gonna be a long time for you.

Yeah, definitely going to try and find out why, but I was reading that a lot of times there is not a cause and it is just what your body produces.

[djgreen]

it may just be you were born that way yes, but you have to know for sure before you start TRT

[ecdysone]

Ur GTG for another decade or so!
Keep doing lab work every 5 or 10 years, but in the meanwhile, enjoy LIFE!

[kelkel]

Step 1 is your thyroid. Educate yourself at Stop the Thyroid Madnessâ„¢ - Hypothyroidism and thyroid mistreatment. Hypothyroidism (even sub-clinical) can and will suppress your testosterone levels.
Your current doc's analysis that your ok due to having hair on your face and legs? WTF. Is this the 1800's?
Find a new doc who gives a shit about finding the root cause of your issue. Do not band aid it with TRT at your age. That would be horrible.
Get more thorough BW.

[Alias26]

Ok, the doc finally agreed that my test was low after he took a blood test at around 5:00pm. I think it measures 48.

[MrFreshmaker]

Ok, the doc finally agreed that my test was low after he took a blood test at around 5:00pm. I think it measures 48. Anyway, I have to take another test at 8:20 in two days. What ways do you guys have to make sure it is low. Right now I'm taking in about 1,600 cals and I might drop it even further.

I'm not taking any kind of steroids,cuz I'm afraid that I'll not recover after cycle(which probably it's true) and I don't wanna be on TRT for the rest of my life,and i am 40 yo!You are 18 man,and pinning twice per week for the rest of your life you think it's easy?Find a good doctor,so he will find out what is causing low test and hopefully get fixed!

[Alias26]

I'm not taking any kind of steroids,cuz I'm afraid that I'll not recover after cycle(which probably it's true) and I don't wanna be on TRT for the rest of my life,and i am 40 yo!You are 18 man,and pinning twice per week for the rest of your life you think it's easy?Find a good doctor,so he will find out what is causing low test and hopefully get fixed!

He ran a ton of blood work. And he said everything was fine. He said that once he runs this test in the morning, if it comes out low, I would have to get an MRI and then start treatment.

[Baxter35]

Ok, the doc finally agreed that my test was low after he took a blood test at around 5:00pm. I think it measures 48. Anyway, I have to take another test at 8:20 in two days. What ways do you guys have to make sure it is low. Right now I'm taking in about 1,600 cals and I might drop it even further.

Wait, you're trying to make it lower? Have you done anything else so far to already make it as low as it is? I first thought you legit had low t concerns, but if your goal is to drop your test enough to get a script then just stop the madness. You're too young for that.

[Alias26]

Wait, you're trying to make it lower? Have you done anything else so far to already make it as low as it is? I first thought you legit had low t concerns, but if your goal is to drop your test enough to get a script then just stop the madness. You're too young for that.

This is the first time I'm doing that. All the other tests were legit. And the results were very low.

[OutThere]

He gave me a speech about that not everyone can look like Arnold, idk why though, he's must be thinking I only want it for recreation.

They're all like that. I have fight and argue for damn blood tests and go around to different medical centres like the junkies do. My endo doesn't know shit and told me she knows nothing about it so she can't help me. The TRT clinics just want to sign you up and don't have doctors who prescribe AIs and HCG - not that I've found yet anyway. But basically the entire medical community has its collective head up its ass with this and lots of other shit. The vast majority of people - including doctors - don't have a capacity for critical thinking so they just soak up and regurgitate the bullshit they rote learned at med school on daddy's dime. **** em all. Brew your own test.

[Baxter35]

This is the first time I'm doing that. All the other tests were legit. And the results were very low.

I understand. But remember natural test can fluctuate a lot from day to day and for many reasons. At your age, I'd get retested several times and certainly not do anything to try to hinder the results. Wouldn't it be a good thing if your natural production kicked back up and turned out not to be a problem after all? If it doesn't, make sure you have a doc that will look for the source. I'm not saying its unheard of, but trt at your age should be the last resort. Be patient, and good luck.

[Alias26]

I understand. But remember natural test can fluctuate a lot from day to day and for many reasons. At your age, I'd get retested several times and certainly not do anything to try to hinder the results. Wouldn't it be a good thing if your natural production kicked back up and turned out not to be a problem after all? If it doesn't, make sure you have a doc that will look for the source. I'm not saying its unheard of, but trt at your age should be the last resort. Be patient, and good luck.

Thanks, this is the fourth time in doing the test. And I agree.

[thisAngelBites]

If you've used steroids previously, it can take quite a while for things to get a chance to level out - and trying to get your blood results to be low to get the doctor to put you on test is a mistake - the rest of your life is a very long time to manage TRT and the various difficulties that can arise if you don't absolutely have to.

A better bet would trying to restart your production and trying to heal and giving your hormones and brain some time to recover and adjust. Deciding to go on TRT instead of trying to sort this out is a forever-decision, which perhaps looks attractive to an 18 year old, but have a read of the difficulties you can read about in this forum, and ask whether people here whether would rather be on TRT or have a good natural production of testosterone on their own, and see which they would choose.

[Alias26]

If you've used steroids previously, it can take quite a while for things to get a chance to level out - and trying to get your blood results to be low to get the doctor to put you on test is a mistake - the rest of your life is a very long time to manage TRT and the various difficulties that can arise if you don't absolutely have to. A better bet would trying to restart your production and trying to heal and giving your hormones and brain some time to recover and adjust. Deciding to go on TRT instead of trying to sort this out is a forever-decision, which perhaps looks attractive to an 18 year old, but have a read of the difficulties you can read about in this forum, and ask whether people here whether would rather be on TRT or have a good natural production of testosterone on their own, and see which they would choose.

Never took any steroids.

[thisAngelBites]

Never took any steroids.

Maybe you should concentrating on getting your health sorted, and not trying to manipulate blood tests in order to get a physician to give you TRT (which, as you have been told, there is no coming off of - if you need TRT why would you ever be planning to come off it? HCG is not going to allow you to come off it).

And why would you not be at all interested in why your testosterone is low at 18? That's bizarre. Maybe there is an underlying reason that can be addressed - I can't understand why you would seem to completely uninterested in that and just dying to get someone to prescribe you some TRT. Unless you already have some idea why it's low.

[Alias26]

Maybe you should concentrating on getting your health sorted, and not trying to manipulate blood tests in order to get a physician to give you TRT (which, as you have been told, there is no coming off of - if you need TRT why would you ever be planning to come off it? HCG is not going to allow you to come off it). And why would you not be at all interested in why your testosterone is low at 18? That's bizarre. Maybe there is an underlying reason that can be addressed - I can't understand why you would seem to completely uninterested in that and just dying to get someone to prescribe you some TRT. Unless you already have some idea why it's low.

The reason I was going to try an manipulate the levels is because 198 ng/dl for an 18 year old is low and we could all agree on that. And it seems like doctors don't want to do anything unless it's like 10 ng/dl (exaggerating).
And I do want to find the cause of it being low, I've done research and most of the time there is no underlying cause, it's just genetic. Also, the doctor ran other bloods too and found nothing.

[kelkel]

I've done research and most of the time there is no underlying cause, it's just genetic. Also, the doctor ran other bloods too and found nothing.

Absolutely not correct and you should listen to Angel. It would be almost unheard of for an 18 yr old to have idiopathic hypogonadism. There is a cause for it which could be anything from your thyroid (as previously stated,) pathologies, testicular or head trauma and more. Your doc simply may not be good at hormones. Get a copy of your blood work and post it up here.

And manipulating levels is as ridiculous an idea as there can be. Would you not want your doctor to tell you the truth? Or would you rather he lie to you to make you feel better?

[Alias26]

Absolutely not correct and you should listen to Angel. It would be almost unheard of for an 18 yr old to have idiopathic hypogonadism. There is a cause for it which could be anything from your thyroid (as previously stated,) pathologies, testicular or head trauma and more. Your doc simply may not be good at hormones. Get a copy of your blood work and post it up here. And manipulating levels is as ridiculous an idea as there can be. Would you not want your doctor to tell you the truth? Or would you rather he lie to you to make you feel better?

Yeah, I guess your right. I'll get them and post them here.

[Alias26]

Update: did not get the results for myself, but test is going to be prescribed. There were no other causes found.
Is it a good idea to take it at 18, or should I just deal with it for a few more years?

[The_Crawfish]

Damn hard-headed 18 y/o know-it-alls!! ������

[kelkel]

Update: did not get the results for myself, but test is going to be prescribed. There were no other causes found.
Is it a good idea to take it at 18, or should I just deal with it for a few more years?

Highly doubtful. Find another doctor who can locate the problem.

[Alias26]

Damn hard-headed 18 y/o know-it-alls!! ???

What do you mean?

[bullshark99]

Alias26, against what others are telling you here, you seem to have your mind made up that you are going on Tes. Sometimes you just need to learn the hard way but you have been warned. After a few months or even a year when you finally realize that supplementing Tes is not as "sexy" as you thought it would be hopefully you will try to get to the root of the problem.
Understand, it will be MUCH more difficult once your on treatment but you seem to have your mind made up. The comment about trying to alter your test results did it for me, absolutely no reason to do this.

[Alias26]

Alias26, against what others are telling you here, you seem to have your mind made up that you are going on Tes. Sometimes you just need to learn the hard way but you have been warned. After a few months or even a year when you finally realize that supplementing Tes is not as "sexy" as you thought it would be hopefully you will try to get to the root of the problem. Understand, it will be MUCH more difficult once your on treatment but you seem to have your mind made up. The comment about trying to alter your test results did it for me, absolutely no reason to do this.

Like I said, that was not a good idea. It just seems like nothing would get done unless it is ridiculously low. I have not made up my mind. I am actually leaning farther away from it. I just don't know what else to do. I was told that everything was normal and there was no secondary cause.

[kelkel]

I just don't know what else to do. I was told that everything was normal and there was no secondary cause.

For the second time, that's BS! Find another doctor as most don't know hormones and many are terrible at interpreting blood work.

[Alias26]

For the second time, that's BS! Find another doctor as most don't know hormones and many are terrible at interpreting blood work.

Thanks, will do.