Help me analyse this cycle please

[GHEN1]

Hi All,

Long time on & off again lurker, 1st time poster.

Have some history with a couple of previous cycles 1 ten week, and 1 twelve week both with Test-Prop & Deca.

Deca didn't treat me to well, awesome gains but BP went really high

I am 49 years old, and should be sub 16% BF when the cycle starts

I am planning a 12 week cycle, not looking for massive gains, just a nice easy cycle that will help me put on some muscle and lean out

The basics of it are this:

• Sustanon 250
• Trenbolon (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate)
• Tamoxifen
• Winstrol

Looking to do 1 Sustanon 250 every 4 days, and 1 Tren every 5 days. Each day 1 10mg Taxomifen and bringing in 40mg of Winstrol for the last 5 weeks M-F

This does not include my PCT.

What I am looking for from the group are thoughts on this particular cycle as well as any suggestions for further protection against estrogen conversion as well as what you might suggest for liver protection.

Here is a snapshot of the last 5 weeks to show the winnie, everything else is pretty much the same.

Thanks in advance:

[TheTaxMan]

Welcome to the forum.

You need an AI for sure, i suggest Arimidex 0.25 eod through the full cycle and drop it a couple days before PCT commences. Drop the tamoxifen, you only need that when estrogen is high, but your AI should control your estrogen.

Get mid cycle bloodwork and check your E2 levels and adjust AI dose if needed.

You should run some HCG through the cycle too, 250iu twice a week, drop this a few days before PCT commences

Id run your winsteol at 50mg ED.

[GHEN1]

Welcome to the forum.

You need an AI for sure, i suggest Arimidex 0.25 eod through the full cycle and drop it a couple days before PCT commences. Drop the tamoxifen, you only need that when estrogen is high, but your AI should control your estrogen.

Get mid cycle bloodwork and check your E2 levels and adjust AI dose if needed.

You should run some HCG through the cycle too, 250iu twice a week, drop this a few days before PCT commences

Id run your winstrol at 50mg ED.

Thanks, I will add the Armidex. Any thoughts on the Sust and Tren together...I have heard good things but nothing 1st hand.

GHEN1

[TheTaxMan]

Sust or any test is commonly ran with tren, there lots of cycle logs etc with these 2 compounds being ran.

They say hold off on the tren for as long as possible (cycle 5 as a ball point figure) so some will argue than tren on your third cycle maybe unecessary

[charger69]

Read up on tren before you ever think of using it. It shuts you down good. Still took a couple of weeks after PCT to begin to recover.
As far as liver protection, use NAC. You can find it just about anywhere and it is not expensive.

[AR's King Silabolin]

With trenbolone you should also read up on elevated prolactin and how to controll it. And personally i think its very strange if deca/prop gives you higher BP than tren/sust.
And if you are not looking for massive gains but just to lean up and add a little size maybe trenbolone is not what you are looking for.

[numbere]

Using winny along with the other two compounds seems excessive for your goals. You should be taking dex or stane from start to finish to control e2. It would also be a good idea to have a DA on hand. If you haven't already then you should read the attached thread below. 1200 mg/ED of NAC should be sufficient liver protection. Make it a point to have pre, mid and post cycle BW.

What do you have planned for PCT?

Ancillary Reference Guide

[Bio-Active]

I do not see the doses listed ?

[NACH3]

Using winny along with the other two compounds seems excessive for your goals. You should be taking dex or stane from start to finish to control e2. It would also be a good idea to have a DA on hand. If you haven't already then you should read the attached thread below. 1200 mg/ED of NAC should be sufficient liver protection. Make it a point to have pre, mid and post cycle BW.

What do you have planned for PCT?

Ancillary Reference Guide

This ^^ and please list all dosages in mgs and all ancilaries needed!

Tamox(nolva)is a SERM used to either combat a gyno flare up or control gyno... It's used in pct alongside clomid or alongside of your AI - only if you have gyno and are avoiding a flare up - your AI is for controlling E2 and prolactin(as your prolactin follows elevated E2 - so if your E2 was elevated so would your prolactin)

Definitely get a DA(dopamine Agonist) for controlling prolactin for after your mid cycle BW to make any necessary adjustments!