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    Whats your question lol

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    Whats your question lol
    Ditto,,,,you got some questions. Simple,,effective cycle. I didn't see a PCT though.

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    speak english?

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    My best guess, I think what he wants to ask is if the cycle in the photo makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    Whats your question lol
    I posted something and nothing appeared. Haha. Sorry. My question is what is the proper pct for this since it was not stated in the website

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    Quote Originally Posted by applips View Post
    My best guess, I think what he wants to ask is if the cycle in the photo makes sense.
    And that too

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    3 days after last pin start Clomid and Nolvadex

    Clomid / Nolva
    Wk 1 75mg ED / 40mg ED
    Wk 2 50mg ED / 20mg ED
    Wk 3 50mg ED / 20mg ED
    Wk 4 50mg ED / 20mg ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    3 days after last pin start Clomid and Nolvadex

    Clomid / Nolva
    Wk 1 75mg ED / 40mg ED
    Wk 2 50mg ED / 20mg ED
    Wk 3 50mg ED / 20mg ED
    Wk 4 50mg ED / 20mg ED
    Thank you sir! In the event that i would change it to my post below. Will the pct remain the same and the Ai?

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    Yes, that PCT is pretty much a standard PCT for all beginner/intermediate cycles.

    AI also stays the same. Get bloodwork done in the missle of the cycle, check E2 and Prolactin levels then you may need to up the AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    Yes, that PCT is pretty much a standard PCT for all beginner/intermediate cycles.

    AI also stays the same. Get bloodwork done in the missle of the cycle, check E2 and Prolactin levels then you may need to up the AI.
    So if im going to have blood work ill tell them im looking for my e2 and prolactin levels checked, is that the only two that i need to monitor? Or is it a guide as to if i need to up the Ai ?

    Can i also make the test and tren forb12 weeks? The other cycle i saw has a 12 week test cycle but the tren was only included during a specific duration such as in the 6th or 7th -12th week

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    The E2 and Prolactin results will tell you if you need to adjust AI

    If possible you want to try and get a full bloodwork/hormone panel done

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    The E2 and Prolactin results will tell you if you need to adjust AI

    If possible you want to try and get a full bloodwork/hormone panel done
    Got it, what about my second question sir? Thanks in advance

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    Its always recommended to run the test longer than the tren

    So either do 14 weeks test / 12 weeks tren

    Or

    12 weeks test / 10 weeks tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
    Its always recommended to run the test longer than the tren So either do 14 weeks test / 12 weeks tren Or 12 weeks test / 10 weeks tren
    Tax man, could you provide more information of why test should be run longer than tren?
    Thanks

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    19 nors (Nandrolone and Trenbolone) can be pretty harsh on our libido (AKA deca and tren dick) keeping your E2 and Prolactin levels in good range with your AI can stop loss of libido

    But if you stop Test before or exactly the same time as the 19nor you can possibly get a dip in libido. So if we run our Test slightly longer to keep our libido up, you can avoid this potential loss in libido.

    I guess a lot could stop deca or tren the same time as the test and be fine, but its a good precaution to run test longer to allow the 19nor to clear from our bodies then drop the test.

    I hope that makes sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
    19 nors (Nandrolone and Trenbolone) can be pretty harsh on our libido If you stop Test before or exactly the same time as the 19nor you can possibly get a dip in libido. So if we run our Test slightly longer to keep our libido up, you can avoid this potential loss in libido. I hope that makes sense
    the 19 nor has a longer active life keeping you shut down. That's why it's better to keep test in your system until the 19 nor clears so you can start to recover after the test is clear

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    Thanks for clearing that up Bio
    Is this the case even if your using tren ace and test prop, the 19nor still kicks in for longer even if the similair half life to prop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan
    Thanks for clearing that up Bio Is this the case even if your using tren ace and test prop, the 19nor still kicks in for longer even if the similair half life to prop?
    it's not as noticeable with ace but I would still run the test a week longer just to be safe. BTW I wasn't trying to step on your toes just help

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    I know buddy i was actualy meant to write at the end of my response "i hope someone more knowledgeable could pitch in"

    But you did anyway

    Its not about stepping on toes, its about collectiveky offering the best and accurate advice to people - cheers bio!

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    Thanks tax man/bioactive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    Its always recommended to run the test longer than the tren

    So either do 14 weeks test / 12 weeks tren

    Or

    12 weeks test / 10 weeks tren


    Ok copy, in the event that i would add winstrol to this, in the last month perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    the 19 nor has a longer active life keeping you shut down. That's why it's better to keep test in your system until the 19 nor clears so you can start to recover after the test is clear
    Sir, i lost weight due to my diet and workout routine since i changed it 40 days ago. If i would do the test prop and tren cycle will i get a "bulk, "clean bulk" or will i continue to lose bodyfat and weight over this? Because for some they need to.add winny in the end.

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