Big as **** cycle, lean and mean.

[Moreweightplease]

I'll be doing at 12 week cycle. Here's the breakdown. Yes, I have multiple cycle experience.
Week 1-4. Sustanon 1ml twice a week. Npp 100 mgs eod, dbol 60 mgs Ed, winstrol 50 mgs Ed. Also, andromix eod (test prop 50mg, masteron 50 mg, tren ace 50 mg). Mixture complex by Gp.
Week 4-12. Sustanon 1ml twice a week. Andromix 1.5ml's Ed with 100 mgs anavar Ed.

THIS IS NOT FOR BEGINGERS!!! I'm 6'1 215 lbs 7-8% body fat walking around when I'm not trying to shred down.

If anyone has any advice, I welcome it.
My pct protocol is well maintain. Hcg, clomid, nolvadex. 6 weeks long. So basically 18 week cycle including pct. N2 guard and liv 52 for liver support and letro for an ai. I'm not prone to gyno issues. Never had them.

[NACH3]

Liver support... You'll need it

[kelkel]

Why so much out of curiosity? Is there a competition upcoming?
7-8% off season is low. Like to see a pic of that!
You should be running your HCG on cycle.
What's your AI protocol?

[NACH3]

Why so much out of curiosity? Is there a competition upcoming?
7-8% off season is low. Like to see a pic of that!
You should be running your HCG on cycle.
What's your AI protocol?

Also I forgot in my post to ask... With no AI(listed) and running 2 19nors and no mention of a DA(how was you going to keep your E2 & prolactin from elevating?? Kel, above, asked everything else....

[Moreweightplease]

Why so much out of curiosity? Is there a competition upcoming?
7-8% off season is low. Like to see a pic of that!
You should be running your HCG on cycle.
What's your AI protocol?

No worries letro is what I'm running for my ai and also n2guard and liv 52 I take for liver support. I always have a super clean diet.

[Moreweightplease]

Also the reason I'm running so much is because I'm not a fan of hgh so for a cycle to get big as ****, I found this ideal. Rich piana influenced me, but I take safer routes when cycling. I don't run hcg on cycle. Last time I did I noticed I didn't get the gains I wanted and I feel it did something to my androgen receptors ability of uptake

[musclestack]

Also the reason I'm running so much is because I'm not a fan of hgh so for a cycle to get big as ****, I found this ideal. Rich piana influenced me, but I take safer routes when cycling. I don't run hcg on cycle. Last time I did I noticed I didn't get the gains I wanted and I feel it did something to my androgen receptors ability of uptake

How are you convinced that the HCG was the culprit in not getting the gains you were seeking? And how did you 'feel' it did something to your androgen receptors? I've never seen a study on this happening and never heard anyone else complain of this.

You look good. You're obviously very lean, but I don't know if I would put you at 7% bf. Anyway, I personally don't think you need the complicated cycle you posted to see great gains. Have you always ran cycles like this? Regardless, best wishes to you.

[Moreweightplease]

How are you convinced that the HCG was the culprit in not getting the gains you were seeking? And how did you 'feel' it did something to your androgen receptors? I've never seen a study on this happening and never heard anyone else complain of this.

You look good. You're obviously very lean, but I don't know if I would put you at 7% bf. Anyway, I personally don't think you need the complicated cycle you posted to see great gains. Have you always ran cycles like this? Regardless, best wishes to you.

Most cycles have just been tren mast anavar and test. I'm not big into bulking agents. For the hcg, I could have been I just grew a tolerance since last time. As I said before I don't like to up the dose. I get weekly blood work and like to stay healthy. If I were to run it my whole cycle what do you suggest as dose wise per week. Thank you for your input. Also I normally run 8 week cycles then a pct. just wanted to try a bulk month this time.

[Moreweightplease]

That's my 7-8% body fat

[musclestack]

Most cycles have just been tren mast anavar and test. I'm not big into bulking agents. For the hcg, I could have been I just grew a tolerance since last time. As I said before I don't like to up the dose. I get weekly blood work and like to stay healthy. If I were to run it my whole cycle what do you suggest as dose wise per week. Thank you for your input. Also I normally run 8 week cycles then a pct. just wanted to try a bulk month this time.

Realistically, there's no such thing as a bulking agent or cutting agent (unless you're referring to the extra water weight some tend to hold while on certain compounds, which would still make it inaccurate terminology). Diet will dictate whether you gain LBM or lose fat tissue. I like the compound choices you listed, but I was referring to the way you have your outlined cycle structured when I said 'have you always ran cycles like this?' It just seems to be a bit all over the place the way it's set up. As for the HCG, a standard protocol would be 500 iu per week split into 2 doses of 250 iu (say, Sunday and Wednesday). Looking good in the pic!

[Moreweightplease]

Realistically, there's no such thing as a bulking agent or cutting agent (unless you're referring to the extra water weight some tend to hold while on certain compounds, which would still make it inaccurate terminology). Diet will dictate whether you gain LBM or lose fat tissue. I like the compound choices you listed, but I was referring to the way you have your outlined cycle structured when I said 'have you always ran cycles like this?' It just seems to be a bit all over the place the way it's set up. As for the HCG, a standard protocol would be 500 iu per week split into 2 doses of 250 iu (say, Sunday and Wednesday). Looking good in the pic!

That's what I meant as a bulking agent. Something that holds water more and also it's clearly defined that certain steroids are for bulking. For instance, deca vs anavar. Bulk and lean. Two different types. But I see what you're getting at. Thanks for the hcg input though and compliment. Just first 4 weeks I'm bulking with as much calories then do a steep cut in diet. Again I always want the lean physique. Hence that's why I run winstrol with the dbol and Npp. I know how dry your joints get from winny trust me that's why I'm stacking it with the other two because they will allow for more fluidity in my joints and won't dry out so bad. After those four weeks I drop everything but the Sustanon and andromix and add var in. Switching compounds works best for me. I've noticed at the 8 week mark the compound doesn't bring want you want as compared to the 3-4 week mark unless it's a dec ester. (21 day half life)

[musclestack]

Well, I can't say that I particularly like your cycle plan, but I am interested in the outcome and wish you the best. Would be interesting to see a log with weekly progress photos to see how you're getting along.

[bigdil511]

Are you really 21 doing all this sh1t? Hope your ready to be married to that needle for life because trt will almost certainly be in your future.

[Moreweightplease]

Are you really 21 doing all this sh1t? Hope your ready to be married to that needle for life because trt will almost certainly be in your future.

See, comments like that aren't relevant. You act like I'm doing this for 365 days. It's a 12 week cycle. Average cycle length. All I'm doing is switching compounds up. Only reply if you know what you're talking about. This is probably the only cycle I'll preform for this year.

[bigdil511]

See, comments like that aren't relevant. You act like I'm doing this for 365 days. It's a 12 week cycle. Average cycle length. All I'm doing is switching compounds up. Only reply if you know what you're talking about. This is probably the only cycle I'll preform for this year.

If you don't think it's relevant do some more research on the effects of aas and the young. There is a whole thread of nightmare stories on here about just that very thing. But hey I'm the only one that chimed in concerned about your health, obviously I'm stupid and making irrelevant statements, have fun fvcking up your life I won't reply again.

[tectime]

Very mature response! Truly your protocol has worked very well for you. I'm sure you do log your progress. I would like to see how this next run does. Should go well I'm thinking.

[kelkel]

I have multiple cycle experience.

At 21? Risky.....

Hope your ready to be married to that needle for life because trt will almost certainly be in your future.

Entirely possible.

See, comments like that aren't relevant. You act like I'm doing this for 365 days. It's a 12 week cycle. Average cycle length. All I'm doing is switching compounds up. Only reply if you know what you're talking about. This is probably the only cycle I'll preform for this year.

Actually, it is relevant. Plus, you've done multiple cycles so I assume over multiple years

If you don't think it's relevant do some more research on the effects of aas and the young. There is a whole thread of nightmare stories on here about just that very thing.

He's got a point. A strong one. And yes, I know what I'm talking about. All that aside, be careful. Unless you're making a living from this, going for a pro card in some aspect, use caution.

Very mature response!

The first sentence was. After that.....

[tectime]

At 21?



The first sentence was. After that.....

Referring to? I'm not his daddy. By his pic something is working for him. If to complement or comment on someone's progress is immature well please by all means. His decision to do steroids at a young age is truly none of my business what I have helped him or guide him in that direction at that age no. again immature please explain.

[kelkel]

Referring to? I'm not his daddy. By his pic something is working for him. If to complement or comment on someone's progress is immature well please by all means. His decision to do steroids at a young age is truly none of my business what I have helped him or guide him in that direction at that age no. again immature please explain.

Ease up! You're taking things out of context. My comment referred to Bigdil's quote which was directly above yours. His first sentence was mature and relevant, after that.....

[tectime]

My bad! My tes level "might" be a little high! Hahaha!

[kelkel]

My bad! My tes level "might" be a little high! Hahaha!

No worries at all! Have a great New Year! That goes for everyone on this thread and site.

[bigdil511]

No worries at all! Have a great New Year! That goes for everyone on this thread and site.

You too brother.