Winstrol storage/composition?

[PeterJonesCA]

Hi,

I got 18 amps of winstrol which I drew out and put into a sterile 30ml vial. Is there something in the composition to allow it to stay safe to use after a few weeks? EOD I expect it to last 4 weeks approximately. Like bac water has Ben alcohol at 0.9% so it lasts, does my winstrol depot have something similar?

[PeterJonesCA]

Any advice would be appreciated

[powerliftmike]

Yes AAS have a sterilizing agent in them. Often benzyl alcohol. A lab could put anything in it. Are these pharm grade Zambon amps?

[PeterJonesCA]

They are winstrol depot amps from Spain (manufactured in Spain also, lab grade) I got another 5 Strombaject aqua (Winstrol Depot) by Balkan Pharmaceuticals as I am short 4 my cycle. I saw on the insert different types of sodium which I figured was the ingredient to allow them to last, was not sure so looking for some info from guys with experience with these.

[Mr.BB]

Dont understand why open amps before being needed

They were sealed, germs free, and you put it in a 30ml vial??? Makes no sense.

[PeterJonesCA]

My stack requires I only use half an amp EOD so I prefer not to leave it open & half full -I'm a bit of a cleanliness freak. Figure since I got my cycle calendar dates all outlined, I may as well have 1 x vial of test for entire cycle as well as 1 x vial winstrol.

[PeterJonesCA]

I should have simply got 10ml vials of test/winny but this is what was available... Tbh my train of thought is if 10ml vials are sold then the compound by the same manufacturer must be the same, which leads me to believe that the winny has got chemicals to preserver it & keep it germ free.

[almostgone]

My stack requires I only use half an amp EOD so I prefer not to leave it open & half full -I'm a bit of a cleanliness freak. Figure since I got my cycle calendar dates all outlined, I may as well have 1 x vial of test for entire cycle as well as 1 x vial winstrol.

Just draw up the injections into 2 syringes and set 1 syringe aside. If you have suspension, I would run the barrel.of the syringe under hot water and shake it well before injection.

Edit: Of course, put the shield back over the needle and store it so it doesn't get knocked around, plunger pushed, etc.

[Mr.BB]

^^^ much cleaner than having ALL the amps open

[Bonaparte]

A lot of pharmaceuticals in ampules don't contain any bactericidal ingredients (like benzyl alcohol), since they are completely sterile while sealed. Post up the ingredients label, as you may have just ruined all your gear.

[PeterJonesCA]

Here it is, and god I hope not..

[Mr.BB]

Here it is, and god I hope not..

Sorry, theres no benzyl alcohol there, unless you put some in there you will be in risk of infection.

[PeterJonesCA]

Should be fine, has sodium chloride -that's a relief... Thought I might have ruined my gear.

[Mr.BB]

Sorry Peter, but sodium chloride is not bacteriostatic.

[Bonaparte]

Sorry Peter, but sodium chloride is not bacteriostatic.

Correct. NaCl is mostly used to balance the tonicity of solutions.
Unless it is highly concentrated (which it isn't), it won't do anything to stop pathogens.

Unless you have some BA on hand to inject in there, toss it. You'll get sick.

[PeterJonesCA]

Correct.. it is not, bacteriostatic is something different.

[PeterJonesCA]

I read a great deal that sodium chloride, in concentrations, is used as a disinfectant / antiseptic and kills bacteria. However who knows how much is in this stuff. I consider simply moving a few ampules contents directly into a sterile vial should be fine. To be on the safe side & well... there is very little chance I want to screw up my cycle or gains by making a silly mistake and getting sick, I shall see about sourcing some Bac water and pop a bit into my vial -that would put my mind at ease. Cheers guys.

[Bonaparte]

That won't work either, as the BA will be too dilute if you just add some bac water. If you inisist on going down this path, put them in the fridge until you can obtain some actual BA.

[PeterJonesCA]

That won't work either, as the BA will be too dilute if you just add some bac water. If you inisist on going down this path, put them in the fridge until you can obtain some actual BA.

Alright, will take everything said under consideration & decide best way forward. Thanks for your insight.

[PeterJonesCA]

That won't work either, as the BA will be too dilute if you just add some bac water. If you inisist on going down this path, put them in the fridge until you can obtain some actual BA.

Hi, what would you suggest the dilution of BA to be? I sourced some BA & would like to mix it into my vial which contains 10ml winstrol.

[Bonaparte]

Hi, what would you suggest the dilution of BA to be? I sourced some BA & would like to mix it into my vial which contains 10ml winstrol.

0.2 ml each (2%)

[PeterJonesCA]

0.2 ml each (2%)

Thank you Bonaparte