Trenbolone and Cardiovascular performance

[tarmyg]

Hi,

I am currently on Tren-A at 100mg/wk. While I have been aware of the side effects in regards to cardio and Trenbolone for quite some time I have never actually tried and push myself to the limit while on it. Today was that day! I got challenged on Facebook to do 100 burpees (The record holder was doing it at 5min 26sec). After 23 burpees, took 1min, my chest started feeling like it was going to explode. I could barely breathe and each time I inhaled I had to do one extra inhalation to feel like I filled up my lungs. I was so close to passing out it must have been quite the scene at the gym. I had at this point, obviously, stopped doing burpees having to put in enough of an effort to breathe.

1. What experience do others have doing the same thing?

2. Is there a compound I could substitute with that will not have this effect on cardio for my next round?

Thanks
~t

[almostgone]

About all I can offer is that tren always killed my cardio when I used it years ago. I tried all esters and tren no ester, but found that they all ruined my cardio. Later I found out that tren easily raises my hematocrit, which is already naturally high.
I've read of some people having better luck with very low doses, but if you're only using 100mg/week, I don't see that you could go much lower?
NPP is a tad easier on my cardio and maybe is less prone to increasing my hematocrit, but not by much.
I pretty much stick to test only @ high end TRT doses for my version of a cycle and occasionally use NPP.

[clarky.]

It does the same to me tarmyg. I just added it to my blast last wk so not looking forward to the cardio now lol.

[numbere]

I've heard that the cardiovascular effect from tren is from the production of leukotriene and can be treated with the anti inflammatory montelukast.

Tren does't negatively effect my cardio so I've never tried it for myself.

[BG]

Why the fuk are you doing burpee's in the first place?

[Mp859]

Why the fuk are you doing burpee's in the first place?

My thoughts exactly hahah

[tarmyg]

I've heard that the cardiovascular effect from tren is from the production of leukotriene and can be treated with the anti inflammatory montelukast.

Tren does't negatively effect my cardio so I've never tried it for myself.

Picking this up to try it. I'll report back with my subjective results in a few days. Found some people using Fluticasone/Salmeterol inhaler. Might try that instead.

[tarmyg]

I tried the Fluticasone/Salmeterol inhaler and for me, this did absolutely nothing. I am a bit suspicious of the inhaler itself as I am not 100% it is working correctly. Regardless, picking up some MONTEK 10MG TABLET to try that instead. I'll report back later again.

[numbere]

I tried the Fluticasone/Salmeterol inhaler and for me, this did absolutely nothing. I am a bit suspicious of the inhaler itself as I am not 100% it is working correctly. Regardless, picking up some MONTEK 10MG TABLET to try that instead. I'll report back later again.

You're doing some interesting research.

I'm looking forward to your results.

[tarmyg]

Let me clarify my exact protocol just in case there is something I am missing here that could potentially interfere.

Supplements:
Vitamin D
Vitamin E
Fish Oil
Ubiquinol
NAC

Medications:
Exemestane 25mg EOD
T4 200mg ED
HCG 250mg 2t/wk

AAS:
Test-E 200mg/wk
HGH 1.8IU ED
Tren-A 100mg/wk

Experiment 1:
Bought a Fluticasone/Salmeterol inhaler and used it for 2 days. Probably only supposed to do one "puff" but the second day I did 5 altogether and noticed absolutely no difference. If anyone knows if this might take a while let me know and I'll retry this and run it for a few days or weeks if needed.

Experiment 2:
I bought Montelukast 10 MG tablets and took one each morning. Used it for 2 days and again noticed zero difference. Again, if this takes a while to work I am willing to try but what I did try did nothing for me.

Considering this is very subjective my conclusion is that should I ever run Tren again I will simply need to suck it up because what I tried did not help.

Thanks
~t

[Ashop]

CARDIO/ENDURANCE is a common complaint for some using TREN. Personally its never bothered me that way,,,but just like everything it
can vary per individual.

[MrTerrific]

Why the fuk are you doing burpee's in the first place?

I'm picturing a high school PE class for some reason..

[tarmyg]

One more question. Would there be any blood test I can run to see the effectiveness of Fluticasone/Salmeterol inhaler or the Montelukast 10 MG tablets or can I only use my "subjective feeling" test?

Thanks