Extreme thigh pain 2 days after injection. Can't walk! Please help!!

[saucerking]

Well I did my first injection on Thursday night.
250mg test E, 1 ml. 23 gauge 1 inch needle. Sterile, completely clean, use 2 alcohol swabs, etc. So it's not an infection. Gear is from a reliable source. Not fake crap either.

I injected it into the quad. Specifically the upper outer portion close to the hip. I was told that would be the least painful. So I did it, aspirated, all that. Took me about 30 seconds to inject. Now here's the thing, I accidently moved the syringe/needle while it was still inside my quad. It moved sideways. Could have this caused muscle tears?

Anyways I quickly moved it back in place, then took the syringe out. Completely painless injection.

Friday evening, I started feeling a bit of soreness in my thigh. Not just the quad, but literally from my knee, all the way up to my injection site. It wasn't serious though. I still was able to workout my legs.

However, hour after hour the soreness got worse. By midnight, I was nearly limping. Now this morning (Saturday morning), I had a LOT of pain in my thigh. I didn't even get much sleep through the night because it just got worse. I tried walking and immediately felt severe pain and fell back in bed. I have been in bed all day because I literally can't even walk.

It's not red or swollen and there's no bump. It's just extremely sore from the knee all the way to my the upper part of my thigh.

Edit: Just felt my thigh. It feels hotter than the other one. Not like blazin hot but def can tell it's warmer than the other one. I never noticed till now. However it's not red or swollen.

Could you call this an infection just based off the fact that it feels a bit hot?

So here are my questions:

1.) What could have caused this? I'm thinking maybe because I accidently moved my syringe while it was still in my thigh? Did that tear a muscle or something? Why didn't I feel any immediate pain then?

2.) What can I do right now to help my leg? Would heating pads work? Advil? Massage? Although a massage would kill me... I can't even touch my thigh without experiencing pain.

3.) What can I do to prevent pain like this from happening in the future? Should I start doing my glutes instead? What else?

Thank you for anyone who read this. I appreciate any help. I don't have anyone else to help me

[themexicanguy]

Sounds like a bad deal. I have had nothing but pm bad experiences with injection in the quad area. Maybe cause I haven't "mastered" it yet. Shoulders and glutes work great for me. I have had the needle in my glutes completely side ways a couple times. Didn't feel much the next day. I don't think just a simple twist of a needle would TEAR your muscles, I don't think muscles are that fragile. Anyway, maybe some more experienced guys will have some more things to say than, "that sucks". Haha sorry man.

[towboatjoe12]

I'm a newbie too so I shouldn't answer this but same thing happened to me. It'll get better just virgin mussels.
Go to the glutes.

[numbere]

Use ice and advil for immediate relief. It's really difficult to say if the needle movement caused your pain without witnessing the injection.

It seems like you pinned your thigh too high. If you place you hand flat on your hip bone, with fingers pointed down, the ideal injection site should be around the tips of your fingers. If you wear low rise pants it's about where the pocket ends.

Honesty, it sounds like you have dirty gear. You should think about getting a 0.2 filter and an empty sterile vile and make sure you test is safe to pin.

[Charlie67]

You're gonna hate this answer, but you'll get better, and there's not much you can do for the pain, sorry.... other then a little gentle message. What you're describing, while a bit more painful sounding than others, is normal. Or at least it was for me. My first test quad injection went flawlessly for about 12 hours.... At which point I'd began to hurt just like yours, the whole upper outside of the thigh. By day 2 I was nearly crippled and I was fairly sure I'd injected myself with plaster dust. I also had no redness, no swelling, and no lumps. But by day 3 it was 70% better, by day 5, it was over. When I did my second injection in my right quad a few days later, it was immensely better as I was far more relaxed, and I had googled every variation of "how to painlessly inject...". It was still a little sore for a few days, but nothing like my first. You'll get better, and used to it.

I went left quad, right quad.... Then after building up more courage, left glute, then right glut, the glutes were better, but it's awkward for me to reach the left side.

Keep at it, and relax for the next one.

Best,
C

[Back In Black]

The reason I never pin quads, I can barely bend my legs for 2-3 after. Glutes and delts all the way for me.

Unless you have pharma grade you have no idea about the quality/reliability of your year.

[saucerking]

Sounds like a bad deal. I have had nothing but pm bad experiences with injection in the quad area. Maybe cause I haven't "mastered" it yet. Shoulders and glutes work great for me. I have had the needle in my glutes completely side ways a couple times. Didn't feel much the next day. I don't think just a simple twist of a needle would TEAR your muscles, I don't think muscles are that fragile. Anyway, maybe some more experienced guys will have some more things to say than, "that sucks". Haha sorry man.

Thanks for your response. Yeah I'm def not doing quads ever again in my life. I was thinking shoulders but I'm scared that would be painful too. It's got more nerves too.

I'm a newbie too so I shouldn't answer this but same thing happened to me. It'll get better just virgin mussels.
Go to the glutes.

I thought its just because its a virgin muscle too but not being able to walk? I think thats a bit too far just blaming it virgin muscle. Thanks for the response. I'll probably do glutes from now.

Use ice and advil for immediate relief. It's really difficult to say if the needle movement caused your pain without witnessing the injection.

It seems like you pinned your thigh too high. If you place you hand flat on your hip bone, with fingers pointed down, the ideal injection site should be around the tips of your fingers. If you wear low rise pants it's about where the pocket ends.

Honesty, it sounds like you have dirty gear. You should think about getting a 0.2 filter and an empty sterile vile and make sure you test is safe to pin.

That's pretty much where I injected it. It's not the gear. I can promise that because a friend of mine injected from my bottle as well and didnt feel such pain. He injected in his glute though.

So should I use ice or heat?? Ive heard a mix of both answers and not sure which to use. Ive been using heat and it seems to get very slightly better but idk. Thanks for the help.

You're gonna hate this answer, but you'll get better, and there's not much you can do for the pain, sorry.... other then a little gentle message. What you're describing, while a bit more painful sounding than others, is normal. Or at least it was for me. My first test quad injection went flawlessly for about 12 hours.... At which point I'd began to hurt just like yours, the whole upper outside of the thigh. By day 2 I was nearly crippled and I was fairly sure I'd injected myself with plaster dust. I also had no redness, no swelling, and no lumps. But by day 3 it was 70% better, by day 5, it was over. When I did my second injection in my right quad a few days later, it was immensely better as I was far more relaxed, and I had googled every variation of "how to painlessly inject...". It was still a little sore for a few days, but nothing like my first. You'll get better, and used to it.

I went left quad, right quad.... Then after building up more courage, left glute, then right glut, the glutes were better, but it's awkward for me to reach the left side.

Keep at it, and relax for the next one.

Best,
C

Thanks for the response. Yeah hopefully by tomorrow I will feel better. It still hurts a lot and I can't really walk. I'm def doing glutes from now. Maybe shoulders. Never quads.

The reason I never pin quads, I can barely bend my legs for 2-3 after. Glutes and delts all the way for me.

Unless you have pharma grade you have no idea about the quality/reliability of your year.

Like I said earlier, friend of mine injected from my bottle as well. He did not have pain like I did so I know its not the gear. He injected in his glutes.

I was actually thinking of going to the doctor if its not better by tomorrow. But theres no way I'm telling him I injected AAS into myself. Should I just say I pulled a muscle or something at the gym? Maybe he could prescribe me some muscle relaxers/pain killers. Thanks for the help.

[Mp859]

Is it red? Sounds like you possibly missed the muscle or its just crappy painful gear. I wouldn't massage it because it will just inflame the muscle even worse. Heat pad and time.

[Livinlean]

I had a similar experience last cycle. It was my first time injecting in my quads and I would say my first 2 injections in each quad left me unable to walk. I mean limbing around at work lol. I have heard of some guys not having any issues at all and others having similar reactions to what you had.

And another thing, I would agree with the guys who said you may have gone a little too high. Personally for me, although that area has a more mass, it also is squishy so more water and fat pockets. I would say go a tad bit lower where you feel more dense muscle and that should make it a bit less painful!

[saucerking]

Is it red? Sounds like you possibly missed the muscle or its just crappy painful gear. I wouldn't massage it because it will just inflame the muscle even worse. Heat pad and time.

No its not red at all. Maybe I missed the muscle. Idk. All I know is that I've been in bed this entire weekend attached to a electrical heating pad and advil.

I had a similar experience last cycle. It was my first time injecting in my quads and I would say my first 2 injections in each quad left me unable to walk. I mean limbing around at work lol. I have heard of some guys not having any issues at all and others having similar reactions to what you had.

And another thing, I would agree with the guys who said you may have gone a little too high. Personally for me, although that area has a more mass, it also is squishy so more water and fat pockets. I would say go a tad bit lower where you feel more dense muscle and that should make it a bit less painful!

Maybe. I'm just never doing quads. Deltoids or glutes next time. I was told you need 1.5 inch needles for glutes though so I got to order some new needles cause I have only 1 inch. Or maybe just do deltoids. I'm scared to do those too

[DROY]

I think everyone is a little different. I do glutes, ventroglutes, quads and delts and NEVER have any PIP. The only caveat is that I never pin more than 1ml in the delts. All the other sites take 2.5ml easily

[Strongblood]

Saucerking. Your going to be fine brother. You're injecting into virgin muscle, that's why it is so painful. Filtering your gear might help some. Moving the needle a little while injecting doesn't hurt the muscle. Just wait till your trying to inject the Glute with the jitters! Take a couple of Advil that will help the pain and speed up recovery. Good luck!

[saucerking]

Saucerking. Your going to be fine brother. You're injecting into virgin muscle, that's why it is so painful. Filtering your gear might help some. Moving the needle a little while injecting doesn't hurt the muscle. Just wait till your trying to inject the Glute with the jitters! Take a couple of Advil that will help the pain and speed up recovery. Good luck!

See a lot say its just virgin muscle. Its Monday today, 4 days since my injection, and my leg still hurts! I tried walking but can barely make it to the bathroom without extreme pain.

Theres no way this is just because of virgin muscle. I mean not being able to walk for 4 days?? Thats a bit too much just blaming it on virgin muscle. I called off of work and school today and may have to again tomorrow. I've been taking advil and using heating pads. The ease the pain for a little but thats all.

I really wanna see a doctor maybe even go to the ER. Problem is, I can't have them find out about me injecting AAS. Should I just say I strained my muscle at the gym doing squats or something?

[Alta]

I still think it's PIP. When I was running prop I was limping around a good 4 or 5 days post injection when I pinned quads. You're also injecting very quickly with a 23 gauge needle into virgin muscle, which probably has something to do with it.

Glutes were the easiest my first cycle, they didn't seem to hurt as much as anywhere else I tried. I prefer quads exclusively now though, I get a little muscle and joint pain but not much.

Next time try a 25G needle, heat up the vial before you draw it, inject slowly, and try not to move around too much. After you inject have a super hot shower and massage the area you pinned. It really helped me out.

[Mr.BB]

Some guys (me included) have problems with quads, at least for a 3-4 weeks after virgin muscle. I had bad pip from gear on quads, but nothing that prevented me walking (limp? lol). Pinning upper quad really helps.

You either have an infection, or a really low tolerance to pain.
If you are sure you dont have an infection (redness, fever, etc) you need to man up

[Metalject]

This is the reason I do not inject quads and never will again. Some people are just too sensitive there.

[Red Bastard]

You moved the needle, while injecting. This will certainly cause pip!

Whoever says to use ice, is an idiot. Heat, heat, heat!!

[600@50]

For the first couple of times I pinned quads I would get really painful pip. Today quads are one of my favorites. You'll get better. It just takes time. Use heat and start stretching the quad. By moving the needle around you cut up the muscle. Try to not move the syringe when you pin. Also relax the muscle when you inject. And do not flex the muscle when you have a needle stuck in it. Always inject into a relaxed muscle.

[saucerking]

I still think it's PIP. When I was running prop I was limping around a good 4 or 5 days post injection when I pinned quads. You're also injecting very quickly with a 23 gauge needle into virgin muscle, which probably has something to do with it.

Glutes were the easiest my first cycle, they didn't seem to hurt as much as anywhere else I tried. I prefer quads exclusively now though, I get a little muscle and joint pain but not much.

Next time try a 25G needle, heat up the vial before you draw it, inject slowly, and try not to move around too much. After you inject have a super hot shower and massage the area you pinned. It really helped me out.

Yeah I will use a 25g needle and inject in glutes from now. Learned my lesson.

Some guys (me included) have problems with quads, at least for a 3-4 weeks after virgin muscle. I had bad pip from gear on quads, but nothing that prevented me walking (limp? lol). Pinning upper quad really helps.

You either have an infection, or a really low tolerance to pain.
If you are sure you dont have an infection (redness, fever, etc) you need to man up

Lol dude I'm not one who cries about pain. I can take a lot of pain. This injection truly left me in pain to the point where I couldn't walk. I don't know if it's because my quads are just that sensitive, or I injected the wrong spot on my quads, or injected too fast, move the syringe when it was injected, or something else. But it really was one of the worst pains I have ever experienced. It's not me being a baby I promise! lol.

This is the reason I do not inject quads and never will again. Some people are just too sensitive there.

Yeah I learned this the hard way.... Quads never again!

You moved the needle, while injecting. This will certainly cause pip!

Whoever says to use ice, is an idiot. Heat, heat, heat!!

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

For the first couple of times I pinned quads I would get really painful pip. Today quads are one of my favorites. You'll get better. It just takes time. Use heat and start stretching the quad. By moving the needle around you cut up the muscle. Try to not move the syringe when you pin. Also relax the muscle when you inject. And do not flex the muscle when you have a needle stuck in it. Always inject into a relaxed muscle.

I'm not doing quads anymore. But yeah I will def take more precaution next time. Hopefully this pain is gone by tomorrow :/

[saucerking]

Edit: Just felt my thigh. It feels hotter than the other one. Not like blazin hot but def can tell it's warmer than the other one. I never noticed till now. However it's not red or swollen.

Could you call this an infection just based off the fact that it feels a bit hot?

[BG]

I never shoot them, 2 weeks out from a show I couldnt do cardio because I could barely walk.

[Red Bastard]

I've had a few bad quad shots, but they're still my favorite. I think we've probably all had a few bad shots, in every one of our pinning locations. Just part of the AAS experience.

[Red Bastard]

Edit: Just felt my thigh. It feels hotter than the other one. Not like blazin hot but def can tell it's warmer than the other one. I never noticed till now. However it's not red or swollen.

Could you call this an infection just based off the fact that it feels a bit hot?

Not necessarily. Inflammation feels hot. I once shot into the teardrop, of my quad. It was hot for a phuckin' week!!

[saucerking]

I never shoot them, 2 weeks out from a show I couldnt do cardio because I could barely walk.

Yeah I'm never shooting them. You would think that the being one of the biggest muscles in your body, it could take a injection quite well. Wrong!

I've had a few bad quad shots, but they're still my favorite. I think we've probably all had a few bad shots, in every one of our pinning locations. Just part of the AAS experience.

Why your fav if you had bad shots in that particular area?

Not necessarily. Inflammation feels hot. I once shot into the teardrop, of my quad. It was hot for a phuckin' week!!

Ok good to know it's not an infection lol

[Xv1d]

This is normal according to my own research after my virgin quad pin. 3 days of limping and 7 days of pain.

[Red Bastard]

My favorite, because it's the easiest spot, for a large injection. Easy to sit on my bed, leg hanging loose. Easy to keep the syringe steady, and to inject at an even rate.

[Strongblood]

I did a little research and came up with this;
Many bros on here has already felt the horror of a Quad pin. This crippling pain usually rear its ugly head 12-24 hrs after injection. So what the hell is going on with the quad pin? Why not easy breezy like our gluteal pins?? Here is why:

There are particular muscles of your body that are "Structure" specific. These muscle groups quads, lattimus dorsalis, ab flexors are always in a constant state of TENSION. Even when we sleep these muscles are holding form. The quad itself is a double edge sword. On one hand pinning the quad will ensure a gauranteed route of drug administration. This is due to how vascular and big the quad muscles are my friends. On the OTHER hand, pinning the quad( which is always in a state of excitement) will 80-100% of the time react adversely to injections.

Use your imagination and peep this: If a bee was to sting you in the quad, your body will send out immunglobins and fluid to the sting injection area. The venom from the stinger is surrounded by immunoglobins and fluid. Your body is blocking the absorbtion of the poison from the rest of your body by doing so! THE FIRST FEW TIMES YOU PIN IN YOUR QUADS, YOUR BODY SEES YOU AS A BIG ASS BEE!! Thus its going to send out the appropiate amount of immunoglobins to damn and dike that area off from the body. This is the reason you have the pain, heat and swelling in that area.

So the pain is caused by :

Pinning too fast in an already excited muscle. Slow injection rate down in this are to approx 90 seconds/ml.

The immune response spoke about above. If you pin 1ml of aas, expect your body to flood the injection area with at least 2-5 ml of fluid.

Now all the fluid flooding your quad sheath is causing pain and inflammation by way of compartment syndrome. In other words way to many muscle, 1ml of steriod, 2-5 ml of fluid building up pressure in a tight space.

These are the reasons your deltoid and gluteals are the first regions designated for IM injection in the medical field. Normally quad injections are limited to emergency medicine administration and some diabetics. Diabetics would have biuld up resistance by pinning in the quad.

Treatment:

Anti-Histamine like benedryl, but be mindful of your blood pressure.

Antiinflammatory ie tylenol, ibuprofen, aleve..etc

Heat massage aids in absorptions

[EasyDoesIt]

I had that same hot feeling when pinning in quad, but I pinned to low. I actually prefer that area now. There are a lot of nerves in the quad and as stated, moving the syringe around (poor injection technique) could irritate the area. It is best to place all weight on the opposite leg, because the quad muscles are dense and harder to inject if they are flexed, which placing weight will do.