First test cyp/prop cycle questions.

[stepj19]

I have searched a ton of forums but wanted to get advice for my particular cycle.

I am a 30 year old male. never ran a cycle. been working out consistently for 5 years. currently 6'0 227 lbs. about 12% bodyfat.

I do have low t counts (204) and have been prescribed all of my stuff by a dr. however i have decided not to go on life long trt yet and instead will be running this in a 12 week cycle. I have the following on hand

Test Cyp- 6X5ml (6000mg) vials
Test Prop.- 6X5ml (3000mg)vials
Clomid- 30X50mg tabs
Hcg- 11000 usp units
Arimidex- 40X1mg tabs


i had originally planed on a test cyp only cycle at 500mg per week for 12 weeks. however with the dr throwing in test prop. i have been looking into doing a blended cycle. i have read the i could use the test prop to start and end the cycle. however i wanted to get opinions first.

also the dr said to run the hcg during pct but from my research i read i either need to do a blast right before pct or run it during the cycle again looking for advice.

the arimidex is prescribed at 1mg/eod again looking for advice.

basically need what i have broken down into the best 12 week (first) cycle. i want to keep this legal at this time so i only have what was given to me to work with.

thanks for any advice or help. i have everything on hand just wanna do a little more research first.

[musclestack]

I'm confused. So, you're doctor knows that you've decided to take everything he prescribed and, instead of using it for a TRT protocol, is now giving you cycle advice? I ask because you stated that "the dr said to run the hcg during pct..."

[stepj19]

My dr actually recommended the cycle to me. Because I want to conceive at some point. And he said it was healthier on my liver to come off of trt periodically. So essentially my trt was prescribed in cycles.

[musclestack]

My dr actually recommended the cycle to me. Because I want to conceive at some point. And he said it was healthier on my liver to come off of trt periodically. So essentially my trt was prescribed in cycles.

Never heard of that before, but I'm not well versed in TRT. Perhaps wait for someone else to chime in, or you could post in the HRT forum. Regarding the cycle, I would only use the Cyp and save the Prop for later. With the amount of Cyp you have on hand, you could run a 12 week cycle @ 500mg/week.

Week 1-12: Test Cyp @ 500mg/week
Week 1-12: HCG @ 500iu/week (yes, run this during cycle, not during PCT)
Week 1-12: Arimidex @ .5mg/EOD (1mg EOD, as your doctor prescribed may be a bit too much. Monitor with blood work, and adjust if necessary)
Week 15-18: Clomid @ 100/50/50/50 (you'll need to get a hold of a bit more)

*Honestly, running it at 50/50/50/50 would probably be sufficient (numbers listed are mg per day separated with a "/" to indicate the week), so you'd probably be fine without having to get a hold of more...BUT, stack it with...

Week 15-18: Nolva @ 40/20/20/20 (again, numbers indicate mg per day separated by a "/" to indicate 4 different weeks)

[stepj19]

Thanks. And yeah i will probably just run the cyp. I've read that people where jump starting the cyp cycles with prop at 100mg eod for the first 3 weeks. And then running prop again alone as a bridge for weeks 13-15 so the transition to pct could be done 3 days after ending prop instead of the 21 days for cyp. Any knowledge on that?

[musclestack]

Thanks. And yeah i will probably just run the cyp. I've read that people where jump starting the cyp cycles with prop at 100mg eod for the first 3 weeks. And then running prop again alone as a bridge for weeks 13-15 so the transition to pct could be done 3 days after ending prop instead of the 21 days for cyp. Any knowledge on that?

Yes, as a matter of fact I've done it myself with a couple cycles with a slight variation to what you have listed. However, it is always recommended that people keep it as simple as possible for the first cycle in order to gauge how they respond. Go with just the Cyp for this cycle, then you can experiment a little for the next one.

[stepj19]

Thanks for the help. Any advice on how to decide the hcg. I heard u can pre fill and freeze? I ask because I only have one large vile. Says stays good in fridge for 60 days though.

[musclestack]

500 iu per week, split into 2 doses (Sunday morning and Wednesday evening, for example @ 250 iu each).

How many iu's are in your vial? You should be able to reconstitute it (mix with BAC water), and put it in the fridge. Do not freeze it.