Failed injection / missed a muscle / infection / abscess / edema?

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[Mr.BB]

If you dont have a fever and the redeness/swollen doesnt increase it will eventually go away.

Lot of things could have happen so its impossible to know exactly, small infection, nicked blood vessel, nicked nerve, bad reaction, etc

You talk about massaging the area, IM injections are not really suppose to be massaged, maybe if PIP is bad (from UGL, too much BA, EO oil, etc) you can massage it the day after to with the added circulation from the massage "clean" the area faster, but massaging will also increase the rate of absortion which might not be ideal.

Also, personnaly think its much easier not to inject HCG together with test, HCG subq is a much less hassle. Injecting both with correct procedure you would have to swap needles when moving from one vial to the other, oil and water different viscosity, different pressures inside vials, etc.

[boisebeast]

Sounds very similar to what I had a few months ago: the pin went great then the swelling started the next day and just kept getting worse. I had to go to the doctor and get some antibiotics as I was concerned about infection. I would lean towards the side of caution if I were you. Hope it resolves itself quickly for you!

[ScotchGuard02]

Don't worry about it. I get get red and swollen from time to time too. It's just one of those things. Keep an eye on it. If it starts to drain with pus, you got a problem. If you get flu like symptoms for a couple of days, it's normal.

[NACH3]

Well folks Im on to something, had my #9 injection on 3rd July (midnight before 4th July), using 30G 1" insulin pin, injecting 75mg test-e and 250iu HCG in one syringe. I pin my glutes only (upper outer quadrants ). First 8 pins I found to work very well me being ~10% BF I believe I used to hit IM injection well with such small pin.

It felt very weird in a sense as I entered with the needle and I was following my protocol the very same way as all previous times, all sterile, wiping vials, wiping injection area etc, this time when my pin was fully in I felt slight sting ~95% in, thought maybe it was a nerve (again I didn't aspirate to check if I was in a blood vessel), and when I was pushing the plunger I felt weird sensation going from injection site toward my torso down toward my groin direction, by that point I thought it may definitely be a nerve so I carried on as it wasn't anything painful or uncomfortable just odd sensation.

Yesterday started to feel PIP, and thought its one of those things, and just carried on, didn't pay much attention, thought it will go away like previous times, the only different thing that I could account this to I thought because I was not doing any cardio since 2nd July being the reason, leaving injection area not massaged enough.

Today I thought I will look in to that area again and I found it look normal and not swollen. if I touch it with otherside of the palm its warm (but not hot) to touch and little tender if I press in with a thumb, it leaves imprint for 1-2 seconds which goes away quickly and its no more painful than it is if I didn't touched it.

I looked at it from different light and found it slightly looks like a bruise, circular in shape but not swollen, maybe has a slight purple blue shade to it, so I wonder if I got an infection/abscess forming or just hit a nerve or what?

I remember the way PIP used to spread trough entire side of the glute from the time of injection, and this time it doesnt seem the case, at least not entirely.

Any suggestions?

Anytime this sensation happens pull the pin out and re-inject(you know the feeling of how it's supposed to feel - like nothing really ) and I don't mix water based w/oil based in my barrels - agree w/BB subQ is much easier for HCG, imho

[Metalject]

I doubt you hit a nerve. If you hit a nerve you shouldn't be wondering if you hit a nerve, it should be undeniable and excruciating.

It also shouldn't matter if you didn't get into the muscle. Testosterone and HCG can both be injected SubQ, in fact, many steroids can be injected SubQ. Anyway, there are tons of guys on this board that inject their testosterone SubQ.

Doesn't sound like you have an abscess, sterile abscess or infected one, in either case it would be swollen.

Like someone else said, anytime something feels off or wrong, it's usually best to remove the needle and find another spot.

[Proximal]

Sorry to hear IM.

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[hammerheart]

I had so bad pip from test I couldn't bend knee at all. Whole are was swollen, it went on for about a week.

After that, I started pinning delts. Very little pip/discomfort comparing to vastus lateralis. I always do HCG separated as subq.

[kelkel]

I doubt you hit a nerve. If you hit a nerve you shouldn't be wondering if you hit a nerve, it should be undeniable and excruciating.

Exactly.

[bobbypump]

I've had three bad injections over the course of four cycles.. and the latest just happened to me 2 week on current cycle.

1. pinned quad, too low, virgin muscle (too much oil maybe too), had really bad knee pain for week since i feel it leaked down and didn't stay in muscle. still absorbed and went away by itself

2. pinned delt too high, had bad, swollen upper shoulder, tender to touch.. went away in one week

3. glute, my first cycle i would get bumps and things, but just getting used to it. This past cycle i went too far to center of glute, i felt weird pushing in too, but pushed plunger anyways. got swollen deep bump, thought infection for sure.. it was red and felt hot. i did a roller 2-3 days after to stretch/roll it out.. it honestly was like the bump bursted and i had whole glute pip for another day.. finally went away completely.

things happen from time to time.. keep it all clean and avoid infection and your body will cure the rest.


(subQ, i thought i got HGH a year back and started injecting .. it would leave red welts on my stomach. then i found the thread about how nearly all hgh is fake and just tossed it all in the trash) Only subQ i do is my HCG and I test it myself now. Tired of fake stuff, tired of UGL orals too

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[hammerheart]

Thats the main reason I was hesitant doing quad injections and after getting leaner observing all them veins everywhere I am even more hesitant about doing it...

Delts - I was considering but kinda sceptical about it, such small muscle, and if shit hits the fan I have "lost" an arm for some time till it heals

Probably the 5/8'' needle was the problem. Anyway, I'm not muscular at all, my delts are very small. Your bigger than me so it shouldn't be an issue, for low pin volume (< .5ml).

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