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    First cycle, want it to be a good one!

    Hey Guys and Girls,

    I have been Training for about 6 years, and I've finally decided that I want to push myself to the next level.

    My stats are: 6'4" (194cm) 230lb (110kg) 15%BF

    So far my training is 5 days a week usually mixed with 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off or depending on what my week at work is like, I try to get in 3 fasting cardio sessions PW and then weights in the afternoon, so my training and diet is pretty well on track.

    So I've done some research and I am going to go with an 8 week cycle, what I've come up with for the results that I want to achieve are as follows.

    Tren - A: 125mg EOD (500mg pw)
    Tesp - P: 150mg E3D (300mg pw)
    HCG: 250iu E5D

    PCT

    Start 1 and a half weeks after last shot of Tren-A

    Clomid: 150mg ED (2 weeks)
    100mg ED (2 weeks)
    50mg ED (1 week)

    I was wondering about PCT, because I will only be running an 8 week cycle do I need to do 8 weeks of PCT, also the fact that I will be using HCG during Cycle will that effect the ending PCT timing?

    If anyone has done this type of Cycle before I'd greatly appreciate some info from a personal level.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungry4more View Post
    Hey Guys and Girls,

    I have been Training for about 6 years, and I've finally decided that I want to push myself to the next level.

    My stats are: 6'4" (194cm) 230lb (110kg) 15%BF

    So far my training is 5 days a week usually mixed with 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off or depending on what my week at work is like, I try to get in 3 fasting cardio sessions PW and then weights in the afternoon, so my training and diet is pretty well on track.

    So I've done some research and I am going to go with an 8 week cycle, what I've come up with for the results that I want to achieve are as follows.

    Tren - A: 125mg EOD (500mg pw)
    Tesp - P: 150mg E3D (300mg pw)
    HCG: 250iu E5D

    PCT

    Start 1 and a half weeks after last shot of Tren-A

    Clomid: 150mg ED (2 weeks)
    100mg ED (2 weeks)
    50mg ED (1 week)

    I was wondering about PCT, because I will only be running an 8 week cycle do I need to do 8 weeks of PCT, also the fact that I will be using HCG during Cycle will that effect the ending PCT timing?

    If anyone has done this type of Cycle before I'd greatly appreciate some info from a personal level.

    Thanks.
    for your first cycle it's too heavy. It looks in good order though, but you should start on test. 150mg won that's a high dose of clomid

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    Welcome brother! You found the spot! Now, we appreciate you joining and hope you find this helpful: If you have never cycled, tren is not what you need and I mean that with respect. You need to do a 500mg a wk test c or e cycle. I am saying this with your potential in mind brother. A stack would be bad as a first too. Doing two injections a week @ 250MG each with 250iu of hcg throughout the injections with anastrozole will get you a long way. Pct of nolva + clomid for two weeks will get you by fine with this cycle.
    Please take note of austinites "successful planning of my first cycle" thread. Its good info. Tren is an advanced aas. Waiting till you have 5 or 6 cycles will greatly enhance you and be much safer.
    Please understand we all know you are gonna do what you choose and I am not trying to be a know it all I am only giving you the best advice possible. I will put up a link to austinites thread. Thanks for joining again!

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    I appreciate the info guys,

    with the PCT of Clomid + Nolva for 2 weeks, should i only need to use 100mg Ed?

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    I would definitely drop the tren for your first cycle and like powerstroke said I would go test e or c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungry4more View Post
    I appreciate the info guys,

    with the PCT of Clomid + Nolva for 2 weeks, should i only need to use 100mg Ed?
    do clomid and tamox/nolva for 4-5 weeks IMO 50mg clomid ed and 20mg tamox ed is fine IMO
    also for first cycle try just teste or cyp IMO for 14ish weeks with an AI. stay away from tren for atleast a few cycles if not totally IMO.

    maybe next cycle do deca and test or something like that.

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    the main problem running tren for a first cycle is that it could put you off AAS for life because of the side effects id listen to obspowerstroke and got to the link he shared good look.

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    Your test dose is actually 350mg per week, and your tren is 437.5mg, at that dose.
    150\3 x 7 = 350
    125|2 x 7 = 437.5


    You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Bastard View Post
    Your test dose is actually 350mg per week, and your tren is 437.5mg, at that dose.
    150\3 x 7 = 350
    125|2 x 7 = 437.5


    You're welcome.

    I don't see the math there, 125 EOD example (mon, wed, Fri, sunday) 125x4 =500??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungry4more View Post

    I don't see the math there, 125 EOD example (mon, wed, Fri, sunday) 125x4 =500??
    I didn't add it up but one week you have 4 shots and the next you have three dosing EOD. So you figure out how much your taking in 14 days and divide it in half. Gives you weekly dose

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    Or, figure out what your daily dose is, and multiply by 7.

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    I definitely would not run tren on a first cycle, I would start with 500 mg of test a week.
    I also wouldn't run tren without test either

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    DROP the TREN lol this is the harshes AAS on the planet ..

    you don't even know how you react to TEST... NVM TREN

    unless you are prepared to be on TRT for life drop the TREN and be safe

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